From: David Bolt on
On Saturday 30 Jan 2010 17:42, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
houghi painted this mural:

> WLS wrote:

> That is also where a second screen comes in handy. One for the code ad
> the other to see what it gives.

Or just a separate desktop for those with a single screen. Personally,
I tend to keep the browser and editor on the same desktop and just swap
between windows when checking what effect the changes have made.

>> Others for web browsers I'm testing out. I'm going to experiment and see
>> what works for me. Remembering what is where could be a problem. :)
>
> First see that all programs start up on the same desktop. With XFCE and
> Windowmaker what I would do was safe the layout as I exit it. The only
> program not listening to this is Firefox (that I am aware of)

With KDE, or at least here, logging into my desktop has Firefox asking
me about restoring the previous session. If I say yes, it places its
windows onto the correct desktops.

> So what happens if I log in is that all programs are in the smae
> identical place and as I get back to screen 1 and that is where I want
> firefox, I have no issue there either.
>
> No experience with KDE or GNOME, but I am sure that they will be able to
> do the same.

KDE does, but Gnome seems to forget what was running. Or, the one
supplied with 11.3M0 does. I've to upgrade that to the latest Factory,
which may or may not be M1, and will see if it still forgets what was
running. Having said that, I don't know if Gnome ever remembered what
was running and on which desktop/workspace, so this behaviour may be
normal.


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: David Bolt on
On Saturday 30 Jan 2010 18:32, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
Roger Pryor painted this mural:

> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:35:55 +0000
> David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:

>> Click on that little "tear drop"[0] widget in the top-right of the
>> desktop and select "Configure Plasma" and then check the
>> "Different activity for each desktop" checkbox. After clicking on Okay,
>> each desktop will be separately configurable as to the type,
>> background, etc. which means that if you're using "Folder view" to make
>> it feel like a KDE3.5 desktop, you'll need to switch each desktop[1]
>> from the default "Desktop" view.
>>
>
> And how does one go back to the single-themed view?? I'm stuck!

Follow the instructions above and unchecking the "Different activity
for each desktop" checkbox should do it. Can't say for certain as I
don't fancy trying it and then having to reset all my desktops again.


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: Roger Pryor on
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:58:29 +0000
David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:

> On Saturday 30 Jan 2010 18:32, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
> Roger Pryor painted this mural:
>
> > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:35:55 +0000
> > David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:
>
> >> Click on that little "tear drop"[0] widget in the top-right of the
> >> desktop and select "Configure Plasma" and then check the
> >> "Different activity for each desktop" checkbox. After clicking on
> >> Okay, each desktop will be separately configurable as to the type,
> >> background, etc. which means that if you're using "Folder view" to
> >> make it feel like a KDE3.5 desktop, you'll need to switch each desktop
> >> [1] from the default "Desktop" view.
> >>
> >
> > And how does one go back to the single-themed view?? I'm stuck!
>
> Follow the instructions above and unchecking the "Different activity
> for each desktop" checkbox should do it. Can't say for certain as I
> don't fancy trying it and then having to reset all my desktops again.
>
>
> Regards,
> David Bolt

Hi David:

Thanks, not actually quite so simple! For anyone else who tried that, and
didn't like the result, you have to recover your old version of the .kde4
directory, from a backup(, which you did do - yes?), do an init 3, to drop
out of the desktop, remove the existing .kde4 directory, install the old
one, and then restore the three symbolic links to directories in /tmp.
Then init 5, to restart the desktop and (with luck), you get back to where
you were. I run 20 desktops (different programs in each as discussed
elsewhere) and liked the old KDE3 style (yet another conversation
elsewhere) and have plenty of program icons on the desktop. None of these
came through the change, so I wasn't happy. However, it is nice to know
that one could do it, if one wanted to. Thanks for tip, and the adventure.



Roger Pryor <rpryor(a)infoserve.net>
From: David Bolt on
On Saturday 30 Jan 2010 21:42, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
Roger Pryor painted this mural:


> Thanks, not actually quite so simple!

I found that out by creating a test user and checking it out.

> For anyone else who tried that, and
> didn't like the result, you have to recover your old version of the .kde4
> directory, from a backup(, which you did do - yes?), do an init 3, to drop
> out of the desktop, remove the existing .kde4 directory, install the old
> one, and then restore the three symbolic links to directories in /tmp.

Alternatively, you could try editing the file:

..kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc

and remove the line:

perVirtualDesktopViews=true

which is added when enabling the "Different activity..." setting.

> Then init 5, to restart the desktop and (with luck), you get back to where
> you were. I run 20 desktops (different programs in each as discussed
> elsewhere) and liked the old KDE3 style (yet another conversation
> elsewhere) and have plenty of program icons on the desktop. None of these
> came through the change, so I wasn't happy.

Change the desktop to "Folder view" and you get more or less[0] the
same icons you would have under KDE3.

> However, it is nice to know
> that one could do it, if one wanted to. Thanks for tip, and the adventure.

One more tip. Once you've configured the desktop and applets/widgets as
you like them, make a copy of the files:

..kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
..kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc

as these contain the layout of your desktop and which applets/widgets
you have on your desktop or dashboard. Makes it easier to revert any
changes made, and is far easier than having to rebuild the layout from
the defaults.


[0] You may get exactly the same icons, but I can't check that any
longer.

Regards,
David Bolt

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From: jamm on
Roger Pryor wrote:

> Thanks, not actually quite so simple! For anyone else who tried that, and
> didn't like the result, you have to recover your old version of the .kde4
> directory, from a backup(, which you did do - yes?), do an init 3, to drop
> out of the desktop, remove the existing .kde4 directory, install the old
> one, and then restore the three symbolic links to directories in /tmp.
> Then init 5, to restart the desktop and (with luck), you get back to where
> you were. I run 20 desktops (different programs in each as discussed
> elsewhere) and liked the old KDE3 style (yet another conversation
> elsewhere) and have plenty of program icons on the desktop. None of these
> came through the change, so I wasn't happy. However, it is nice to know
> that one could do it, if one wanted to. Thanks for tip, and the
> adventure.
>
>
>
> Roger Pryor <rpryor(a)infoserve.net>

https://bugs.kde.org/214821

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