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From: lrhorer on 8 Mar 2010 20:50 I loaded up an embedded system with Debian recently. I was having problems relating to the older kernel in Lenny, so I want ahead and installed Squeeze. I got things working, but I was mortified with KDE4, which installed with Squeeze. It's horrible. I mean really, really bad. KDE3 wasn't exactly spectacular, but it was good enough. This hunk of junk, though, is really quite unacceptable. Ignoring the fact that Kpackage was just plain broken - which I assume will be fixed before Squeeze goes gold - the UI for KDE4 is brain dead. I have several servers and a couple of workstations which will sooner or later need to be upgraded to Squeeze, but I do not want KDE4 on them in the shape it is now. Is there a way to allow everything else to upgrade, but hold back KDE and its dependants? Barring that, is there a way to get KDE4 to look and behave like KDE3? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/joydnbqEPvDRPwjWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)giganews.com
From: Sam Leon on 8 Mar 2010 22:30 lrhorer wrote: > I loaded up an embedded system with Debian recently. I was having > problems relating to the older kernel in Lenny, so I want ahead and > installed Squeeze. I got things working, but I was mortified with > KDE4, which installed with Squeeze. It's horrible. I mean really, > really bad. KDE3 wasn't exactly spectacular, but it was good enough. > This hunk of junk, though, is really quite unacceptable. Ignoring the > fact that Kpackage was just plain broken - which I assume will be fixed > before Squeeze goes gold - the UI for KDE4 is brain dead. I have > several servers and a couple of workstations which will sooner or later > need to be upgraded to Squeeze, but I do not want KDE4 on them in the > shape it is now. Is there a way to allow everything else to upgrade, > but hold back KDE and its dependants? Barring that, is there a way to > get KDE4 to look and behave like KDE3? > > I have been using kde4 for over a year. The only issues that I have had are the lack of a couple of programs that haven't been ported from kde3 to kde4 yet but I have managed with out them. You didn't explain what your problems are with kde4 so I am going to have to guess here. Yes the UI and desktop are alittle bit different. But after poking around in the options for about 2 hours I managed to get kde4 working just about the same as kde3. Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4B95BF09.2010703(a)net153.net
From: Cassiano Leal on 9 Mar 2010 07:50 On 9 March 2010 00:22, Sam Leon <debian(a)net153.net> wrote: > lrhorer wrote: >> >> I loaded up an embedded system with Debian recently. I was having >> problems relating to the older kernel in Lenny, so I want ahead and >> installed Squeeze. I got things working, but I was mortified with >> KDE4, which installed with Squeeze. It's horrible. I mean really, >> really bad. KDE3 wasn't exactly spectacular, but it was good enough. This >> hunk of junk, though, is really quite unacceptable. Ignoring the >> fact that Kpackage was just plain broken - which I assume will be fixed >> before Squeeze goes gold - the UI for KDE4 is brain dead. I have >> several servers and a couple of workstations which will sooner or later >> need to be upgraded to Squeeze, but I do not want KDE4 on them in the >> shape it is now. Is there a way to allow everything else to upgrade, >> but hold back KDE and its dependants? Barring that, is there a way to >> get KDE4 to look and behave like KDE3? I have been using KDE4 since 4.0 came out. Never really been a big fan of either KDE or GNOME in the past, but the KDE4 series, the ideas and the technology behind it, and especially the VERY RAPID evolution have caught me -- have a peek at KDE 4.4, I reckon you'll have a nice surprise: it's beautiful (IMO, of course), VERY customizable, snappy, has plenty of desktop paradigms to choose from and I'm sure you can get it to behave more or less like KDE3 with a bit of customization, even though I totally miss the point there -- apart from the rant. - Cassiano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/27310d2c1003090425m7df191xa6bc49028eadc6ea(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on 9 Mar 2010 08:00 On Seg, 08 Mar 2010, lrhorer wrote: > I loaded up an embedded system with Debian recently. I was having > problems relating to the older kernel in Lenny, so I want ahead and > installed Squeeze. I got things working, but I was mortified with > KDE4, which installed with Squeeze. It's horrible. I mean really, > really bad. KDE3 wasn't exactly spectacular, but it was good enough. > This hunk of junk, though, is really quite unacceptable. Ignoring the > fact that Kpackage was just plain broken - which I assume will be fixed > before Squeeze goes gold - the UI for KDE4 is brain dead. I have > several servers and a couple of workstations which will sooner or later > need to be upgraded to Squeeze, but I do not want KDE4 on them in the > shape it is now. Is there a way to allow everything else to upgrade, > but hold back KDE and its dependants? Barring that, is there a way to > get KDE4 to look and behave like KDE3? Provived you can downgrade the packages to KDE3 (or reinstall and not upgrade), you can put packages on hold or use apt-pinning to prevent them from being upgraded. But you'll not be able to keep that situation forever. One day, a (possibly huge) chain of dependencies will either force you to upgrade to KDE4 or not update other parts of your system anymore. Or programs you need won't work under KDE3, even if you can keep installed. And so on. If you insist on KDE3, you could manually compile instead of using the debian packages to avoid the problem with keeping old packages installed. But even this is something you'll not be able to do forever: someday it won't compile anymore because of some library, or because it uses non-standard code that isn't supported by a newer compiler version, or some other problem. I believe KDE3 does not get much more developer atention now, and some day it'll be completely stopped - if you really want it, you'd have to maintain it yourself. Basically, KDE3 is moribund, if not dead already. If you really don't like KDE4, I'd suggest looking for other alternatives (there are plenty of desktop environments out there), because hanging on to KDE3 is going to get more and more difficult as time passes. -- War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ketchup is a vegetable. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo(a)kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100309095132.77825ntk29b5juyo(a)mail.kalinowski.com.br
From: Jimmy Johnson on 10 Mar 2010 09:50 lrhorer wrote: > I loaded up an embedded system with Debian recently. I was having > problems relating to the older kernel in Lenny, so I want ahead and > installed Squeeze. I got things working, but I was mortified with > KDE4, which installed with Squeeze. It's horrible. I mean really, > really bad. KDE3 wasn't exactly spectacular, but it was good enough. > This hunk of junk, though, is really quite unacceptable. Ignoring the > fact that Kpackage was just plain broken - which I assume will be fixed > before Squeeze goes gold I have replaced kpackage with "gdebi-kde", gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp) located packages. I also use synaptic. > ...is there a way to > get KDE4 to look and behave like KDE3? I think the big difference is that kde4 is using dolphin for file management and not konqueror, but you can setup konqueror to be used as the filemanager just like it was in kde3, here's a little recipe I made to give me both a "User Filemanager" and a "SuperUser Filemanager": OK, you can get red and blue icons for the kde4 menu from here: www.flickr.com/photos/23959276(a)N07/sets/72157622753407463/ I use the classic menu, if you don't know you can right click on the start button and change to the classic menu. Right click on the menu start button and choose edit menu and click on the System Folder, that's where we are going to add the new file managers, first click New Item and Name it: "Konqueror - File Management SuperUser" and click OK, for the Description use the same as the Name, next is the Command: "konqueror -profile filemanagement", next click Advanced and check the box Run as different user. Now go back to the General tab and click to add the icon, browse to the icon and select it. Leave "Enable launch feedback" checked. For the user just name it "Konqueror - File Management", the setup is the same but you don't use the advanced tab, leave out the above quotes and when you're done just click Save. In konqueror you will need to set it up the way you like by using the settings tab, configure konqueror, general, use common view properties for all folders and then save you settings to filemanagement. -- Jimmy Johnson SimplyMEPIS 8.5 RC-2 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4B97B07D.4060306(a)gmail.com
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