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From: Darklight on 9 Apr 2010 15:07
john(a)wexfordpress.com wrote:

> My reaction to KDE4 was so negative that after a decade or
more of use
> of KDE I switched to XFCE. But others obviously have other
views. So I
> ask the general question, what GUI do you currently run?
And why?
>
> John Culleton

With a little work one can get kde4 to look like kde3.
it is not that hard what you don't like you can turn off.

It took me a couple of hours to get it to run the way i
wanted then a few minutes a day to play around.

all in all a lot better than kde3.
From: Ewald Pfau on 9 Apr 2010 16:48
john(a)wexfordpress.com <john(a)wexfordpress.com>:

> My reaction to KDE4 was so negative that after a decade or more of use
> of KDE I switched to XFCE. But others obviously have other views. So I
> ask the general question, what GUI do you currently run? And why?

I prefer to sit in front of a perfectly empty screen (or, say, an
undisturbed picture) as a desktop to start with. Before, I could go with KDE
3.5, as I did for some short time, but with KDE 4 switched back to
WMaker/GNUstep again, which I had used before as well, for some years.

As I could read in an announcement, dependancy of next version of Xorg from
HAL should disappear again (thank you for that decision, whoever made it).
So with wmaker, hopefully I can switch off HAL then, again, as well.

For xfce, I could not find, how to switch off those pixels (after having had
disappear everythig else from the desktop), indicating that they are there,
so to remember me all the time, that they are waiting, and I still do not
know, what for. Everything is available by redundancy elsewhere, anyway.

Neither could I find, how to melt down the interface menu and compose it
exactly the way, I need. At least I do not see, why I always should be
presented short-cuts which I never use and have to bypass those prominent
accesses to installation routines, which I never use either, once things are
installed - but in consequence, all the stuff I need is somewhere below
some sub-menus.

With wmaker, I stay all those years with that simple approach: right click
on desktop, or ctrl-esc, gives a top menu, and center click on desktop, or
alt-tab, gives rlist of unning applications, or ctrl-alt cursor switches
through virtual windows. Since I can define the menu structure from the
bottom up, I can make it fit my needs - as well insert / delete items
quickly if need arises. If there is need for installation stuff, so there is
an editor somewhere and there is a lot of files below /etc.

Terminal from xfce is really nice, instead of xterm. Thunar would be nice as
well, but for me, in fact it turned out too often, to be far too control
freaky, in my view. So I stay with mc inside of a terminal, when visual
access or application smartness is needed.

Say, in short and as a major point, I do not need a machine accumulating all
those many funny guesses about who is me (melting this down to profiles and
preferences and favorites and histories, etc). This is not the purpose I
need a machine for, to keep me informed about.

Maybe today everything is black and tomorrow everything is white - such an
approach, like brickling on a playground, could be accomplished with KDE3x,
this has been quite nice, but this seems gone. So I stopped that brickling
again - wmaker seems a bit too old for that, and looks somehow 'grown-up' in
such regards, but which is not a disadvantage, either.

From: Aaron W. Hsu on 9 Apr 2010 17:29
"john(a)wexfordpress.com" <john(a)wexfordpress.com> writes:

>My reaction to KDE4 was so negative that after a decade or more of use
>of KDE I switched to XFCE. But others obviously have other views. So I
>ask the general question, what GUI do you currently run? And why?

I'm running StumpWM right now. I'm using a lot of console applications
in my current workflow, so I decided to move to a Window Manager that
made use of the console a little more efficient for me.

I wouldn't call that the only GUI that I use though. I do use Xv, and
some other GUI applications, though a lot of them are now mouse sensitve
console applications like THE.

Aaron W. Hsu
--
A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.
From: Adam on 9 Apr 2010 19:05
On Apr 9, 10:36 am, "j...(a)wexfordpress.com" <j...(a)wexfordpress.com>
wrote:
> My reaction to KDE4 was so negative that after a decade or more of use
> of KDE I switched to XFCE. But others obviously have other views. So I
> ask the general question, what GUI do you currently run? And why?
>
> John Culleton

I use the KDE included in the install, with a catch: I run E16 as my
WM.

Reason being, E16 is infinitley "smaller" than most any full featured
WM, and though I like E16, I encountered issues with lost
customization after running it under XDM. So, since I had KDE4
preconfigured, I just ran it with E16.

-Adam
From: Stephen Bloom on 9 Apr 2010 22:17
john(a)wexfordpress.com <john(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> My reaction to KDE4 was so negative that after a decade or more of use
> of KDE I switched to XFCE. But others obviously have other views. So I
> ask the general question, what GUI do you currently run? And why?

> John Culleton

I'm running Slack 13 on a variety of boxes: a desktop at work, a desktop
at home, and a laptop spanning work and home. I've been very comfortable
with KDE3.5, and that remains the window manager I use on the work and
laptop machines. I run the -current version of KDE4 (now 4.3.4) on the
home machine. I find KDE4 to be a nuisance, but gradually improving
over time. I found XFCE to be annoyingly different to my way of
doing business, though absent KDE3 I probably could have adapted to
it over time.

I ssh to a variety of differnt platforms at work, and I find the
ability to customize Konsole (and its tabs) to be very handy in
KDE3.


Steve
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