From: JosephKK on
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:09:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Joel Koltner wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:4BC750B9.C003B50D(a)earthlink.net...
>> > They didn't. The LED lamps are retrofitted. They did the red first,
>> > in my area.
>>
>> Hmm... I wonder why red? Spends the most time on? If one color is going to
>> fail, presumably people will just stop anyway, so why not make it the red one
>> that'll fail anyway?
>
>
> My guess was that they were replacing more red lamps, and started the
>conversion to LED as they failed.

Depends a bit on the locale, mature city, county and state level systems
were on a regular, say 6 month, complete relamping schedule. The
maintenance crew took the old lamps home where lasted for decades.
LED signal modules however have a 5 or more year replacement schedule,
think of what that might mean to say San Francisco, New York or Chicago.
From: JosephKK on
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:11:22 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:45:29 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>PovTruffe wrote:
>>>
>>> Just one thought: why did not they design traffic lights with RGB LEDs ?
>>> They should be much cheaper with a single lamp.
>>> However we are all so used to 3 lamp traffic lights...
>>
>>
>> They didn't. The LED lamps are retrofitted. They did the red first,
>>in my area.
>
>Red lights were often higher power and burned out faster. LEDs made more
>sense, initially, for the red (and were cheaper).

Nope. Same lamp in all signal sections (unless of different diameter).
MRO spares item control issues.
From: Charlie E. on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:29:17 -0700,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:11:17 -0700, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:57:03 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
>><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4BC750B9.C003B50D(a)earthlink.net...
>>>> They didn't. The LED lamps are retrofitted. They did the red first,
>>>> in my area.
>>>
>>>Hmm... I wonder why red? Spends the most time on? If one color is going to
>>>fail, presumably people will just stop anyway, so why not make it the red one
>>>that'll fail anyway?
>>
>>First, red LEDs are the cheapest, and easiest to drive, so they were
>>the first to come out. Also, the red filter means a lot of heat insde
>>for the old incandescents.
>>
>>Next came green. which was a little harder to drive, and didn't last
>>as long initially. After those problems were solved, they were in
>>use.
>>
>>The yellows came last, mainly because the yellow incandescent is on
>>with so little duty cycle that they last forever anyway!
>>
>>Charlie
>
>No. The yellow and green indications were normally replaced together,
>the issue being maintenance cycle. Very much from the required lane
>closures and attendant traffic control issues.

Different cities probably did it differently. I know that Irvine
didn't change out the yellows till years after the green and red.

Charlie
From: mrjb1929 on
Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions. This problem did get
resolved and the Ultra Bright LED's that I was using in my front yard were
causing RF signal's to block the Garage Door Opener Remote from working
properly. I swapped them to the back yard and used some other LED bulbs.
Funny though... These were purchased via eBay but came from a US
Distributor and not overseas, so these were the LAST ones that I suspected
as causing the problem.
Thanks again,
Jerome

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From: Joel Koltner on
"JosephKK" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5fbqs5t2d6e9bp71lr6a3gag52l9cs4bfr(a)4ax.com...
> The
> maintenance crew took the old lamps home where lasted for decades.

....because they're really 130V (or thereabouts), right?

> LED signal modules however have a 5 or more year replacement schedule,
> think of what that might mean to say San Francisco, New York or Chicago.

Do you happen to know what the incadescence bulb replacement schedule is? I
recall reading once it's astonishingly short, to make the likelihood of a bulb
outage almost nil. (Although it seems like having, e.g., two filaments -- and
detection of when one or the other went out to call for expedited
replacement -- might have been cheaper?)

---Joel

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