From: krw on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:19:16 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:09:51 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:06:39 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
>><speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:12:23 +0200, "PovTruffe"
>>><PovTache(a)gaga.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just one thought: why did not they design traffic lights with RGB LEDs ?
>>>>They should be much cheaper with a single lamp.
>>>>However we are all so used to 3 lamp traffic lights...
>>>>
>>>
>>>For people that can't distinguish colors it's certainly better.. since
>>>they seem to be standardized in most places in North America with red
>>>at the top and green at the bottom.
>>>
>>>Of course some of the outlying settlements, such as Britain and
>>>Quebec, have their own quaint customs:
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Modern_British_LED_Traffic_Light.jpg
>>>http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v323/26/109/517132740/n517132740_1211892_8628.jpg
>>>
>>>I'm old enough to remember driving in NYC with the two-color lights
>>>(red and green on simultaneously rather than amber), which always
>>>struck me as being more efficient.
>>
>>The ones I liked, also in NY, were standard three-color lights but the yellow
>>lit during the final part of the green cycle, warning that the light was about
>>to change to yellow. It seems they replaced that with a delay after red,
>>before green the opposite direction.
>
>Thanks for this bit of minutia. It explains some of the dumber design
>decisions i have seen in traffic signal timing.
>
>And i think that the yellow overlap is a really good idea. Though not as
>good as all red intervals.

I think the all-red interval is the replacement for the green-yellow. One is
not to enter an intersection on red, where with the green-yellow one doesn't
run a yellow. The only advantage of the green-yellow over the all-ways red is
that it can be seen. That's its disadvantage too; it will be run.
From: Michael A. Terrell on

JosephKK wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:09:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Joel Koltner wrote:
> >>
> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4BC750B9.C003B50D(a)earthlink.net...
> >> > They didn't. The LED lamps are retrofitted. They did the red first,
> >> > in my area.
> >>
> >> Hmm... I wonder why red? Spends the most time on? If one color is going to
> >> fail, presumably people will just stop anyway, so why not make it the red one
> >> that'll fail anyway?
> >
> >
> > My guess was that they were replacing more red lamps, and started the
> >conversion to LED as they failed.
>
> Depends a bit on the locale, mature city, county and state level systems
> were on a regular, say 6 month, complete relamping schedule. The
> maintenance crew took the old lamps home where lasted for decades.
> LED signal modules however have a 5 or more year replacement schedule,
> think of what that might mean to say San Francisco, New York or Chicago.

I've seen several red LED lamps fail in the same location in a little
over a year, each. I'm starting to see green LEDs failing as well.


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From: JosephKK on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:52:59 -0500, "mrjb1929"
<j.bokelmann(a)n_o_s_p_a_m.n_o_s_p_a_m.comcast.net> wrote:

>Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions. This problem did get
>resolved and the Ultra Bright LED's that I was using in my front yard were
>causing RF signal's to block the Garage Door Opener Remote from working
>properly. I swapped them to the back yard and used some other LED bulbs.
>Funny though... These were purchased via eBay but came from a US
>Distributor and not overseas, so these were the LAST ones that I suspected
>as causing the problem.
>Thanks again,
>Jerome
>
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Groovy, glad you got it sorted. I just wish that you had come to USENET
more directly. It is a really fun and hugely varied place, but it is NOT
world wide web. It predates www and cannot really follow www rules
having a well developed rule set of its own already.
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