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From: bigfletch8 on 4 May 2010 22:43 On May 4, 12:23 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > On Mon, 3 May 2010 02:14:03 -0700 (PDT), > Classic example of intellectual bullying. When you thought I was a science professor, and I paid you a compliment, you were all 'gushy'. Now you know Im not, you become insulting. Mistaken identity all right....your own. Is there life after death? If you want the correct answer, you have to ask the right question. Does your identity live beyond the life of your physical body, is more appropriate. To ask 'is there life after death', is very childish (as is the bullying to which I refer). The answer to yours is obvious. Your great grand parents are dead, and you are alive. Try these variations, and you may possibly see what I mean. Is there no time after time? Is there dark after light? Is there up after down? Life 'is' George(not was)! It doesnt have an after or a befor. You have a body that dies in total every ten years. 90% of your biological structure is non human in origin.By the 'time' you brain has registered an event, it has already happened, so your senses (including those trained in science)can only experience the past....and yet you are known as a 'be'-ing. The reason for your frustration, is you are blocking your own awareness. BOfL
From: nuny on 5 May 2010 06:41 On May 4, 7:59 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 3, 11:40 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: (snip) > If the regress of emperical justification does not terminate in basic > emperical beliefs, then it must either: > > (1) terminate in unjustified beleifs > > (2) go on infinitely (without circularity) > > (3) circle back upon itself in some way. The Scientific Method is said to be "recursive" because theories are explanations of observations, which suggest new observations to make. If those observations are as the theory suggested, the theory is reinforced. If not, the theory is shown to be limited. In other words, science keeps testing (justifying) its beliefs via experiment. Science doesn't have much in the way of untestable "beliefs". It "believes" in the universality of physical law, which observations consistently support. It "believes" in cause-and-effect, which observation again consistently supports. You might say that the Scientific Method is "believed" to work, but how would you go about falsifying it? > You have not shown any reason to show that the microtubules do > anything after someone dies. Screw "sophisticated" argument, let's design an experiment to *look* for it. > ...are you suggesting > that some time relativism is involved? If [so] it seems like more > the desire for a moment to last forever? How long does an experience take? > Rub your hand up the side of your other arm, feel that? That part of > what makes the self "feel like something" except there is the entire > body in the brain feeling like something. > > Homunculus - the mapping of the body surfaces in the brain. This isn't about the neuronal brain. Mark L. Fergerson
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