LOGICAL PECULIARITIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH [Physics]

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From: George Hammond on 2 May 2010 17:01

LOGICAL PECULIARITIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH

Copyright George Hammond 2010

Note: "LAD" = "Life After Death"

Note: Please point out any logical inconsistencies

It occurs to me that there must be certain structural
rules as to what can or cannot occur in life after death
(LAD). If we assume that LAD is basically a revisitation of
Earthly life, then the first thing we deduce is that it
cannot be possible for you to return to Earth at a date
later your date of death. The reason for this is simple; it
would be possible for you to meet someone who had attended
your funeral or read your obituary and knew that you were
already dead. This would present an illogical paradox which
cannot be allowed in our scientific view of LAD.

So the first structural rule must be that you can never
observe a calendar day which postdates the date of your
death. Likewise, you apparently cannot meet people who are
already dead in Heaven at a date later than the date of
their death either, because other people still alive would
likewise notice them also!

This it would appear is not a great problem. In the first
place we expect that LAD will largely be a biographical life
review, in other words most of it will take place in the
past. Visions from your childhood your adolescence,
middle-age etc. etc. etc. All of this occurred long before
your death.

So I assume in the first place that it is not true that
the only people you see in Heaven are people who are already
dead- in fact just the opposite is true... you only see
dead people by returning to an earlier date when both you
and they, were both alive! Most of the people you see in
Heaven will probably still be alive on Earth, however, you
will not see them after the date of your death.

Now arises the question of Beatification. One assumes
that the first principle or essential-reason for life after
death is the Beatification of the body and obtaining the
Beatific Vision. So the question is; will you be walking
around in the world with a Beatified body and looking like
God himself? Obviously this would present a problem, indeed
you would obviously start a riot if you ever appeared in
public in such a form. Okay then, I presume then that the
Beatification must be mental rather than physical at least
during the period of life review. In other words you will
revisit old situations and old scenes but you will see them
with "new eyes" and perhaps with a new body sensorially
speaking but not a new body appearance wise. In other words
you will be transformed or beatified psychologically and
spiritually but your appearance will not change.
This of course is getting complicated and it appears to
be the beginning of complications for the theory. For
instance if you revisit an old scene and with your newfound
powers act differently, this would alter the entire history
of your life.... so what would become of the rest of the
life review? We simply can't believe that you live life all
over again in a completely altered form and totally new
course of events. That is simply too complicated. No, if
there is LAD, I think you must simply revisit the old scenes
but see them with new eyes... and this ever-increasing
Beatific perception of your past life builds finally to a
level of complete Beatific Vision at the end of your life
history. In other words you revisit your entire past life
with an "invisible" transformed spirit but wearing your old
body appearancewise in the various scenarios. Apparently,
you don't do anything differently that would alter the
recorded biography of your life.
On the other hand there may be additional scenarios that
are not part of a conventional biographical life review in
which you may take different actions and do or accomplish
additional things without logically upsetting your world
history.
Naturally if you have a Beatified body you would
certainly want to run and jump and water-ski and drive a
sports car at 150 miles an hour and experience all the
pleasures of a perfect body. There is certainly no reason
why you couldn't do this without altering the course of
world history or your own recorded biography. Consider for
a moment how complex an ordinary nocturnal dream is, and yet
while you're experiencing the dream nothing seems logically
impossible. We must assume that the same power is at work
in LAD if it exists.

Meanwhile I am still trying to develop an overall opinion
as to the probability of the existence of LAD. In the first
place, I now believe if it exists that it is, or must be, a
revisit with full bodily senses of our everyday worldly
environment.... but of course this environment is actually
what we call a "virtual reality".... even though it looks
exactly like the Earth we just left! If this is true, what
it means is that we must have a DOUBLE BODY! The neuronal
system of the brain is the first body and the microtubule
system of the brain constitutes a SECOND BODY! Hence if we
have two bodies we experience two lives before we finally
expire permanently. In the Microtubule-Body we achieve the
Beatific vision which by definition is a condition of
"eternal life" because it has ZERO TIME DILATION .

So the previous paragraph brings us around to the
question of the scientific explanation of the SOUL . The
microtubule system in the brain must in fact be the physical
embodiment of the SOUL !

So it turns out the Greeks were correct, the Soul is
IMMORTAL, and now we know WHY!

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

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From: bigfletch8 on 2 May 2010 22:53

On May 3, 5:01 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> LOGICAL PECULIARITIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH

Consider the following:

Your biological structure is constantly dying and reforming.

There is not one single cell in your body that is more than ten years
old, the oldest being your skeletal cells.

The structural rules to which you refer apply, funnily enough, to the
"structure".

Life creates structure, but is 'of itself' structureless. It is also
timeless and space less, so what you are doing, is trying to define
life from a structural and spacial perspective. Absolutely impossible
to explain, but inevitable to understand (to become conscious of).

What is the difference between Hammond now and Hammond ten years ago?
The body is new, (although it is still 'following orders' from the
genetic code). The only difference is the level of consciousness,
which is the timeless reality you are inadvertently making reference
to. Some people appear to remain static in such states. You dont
normally find them in such arenas as this.

Apply the ref. you make regarding meeting people 'in heaven', to
meeting yourself many years ago. You would recognise your past self,
but not the reverse. This is the basics to all interaction
'supposidely' with others (and why there is an ever growing
disenchantment with the 'romantic' world. It is NEVER about the other
person, we are simply mirrors to others)

It gets confusing, particularly when some research departments in
places like Harvard are starting to recognise genes which do effect
the psyche.

This is because, although psychosomatic connection is well established
(they are actually discovering the biological link.... one of the
first conjectures was 'the criminal gene') that link is rather like
the modem linking your comp. to the internet.

We each have the capacity to develop a state of consciousness which
transcends the psychosomatic. One of the reasons that the term
'forgiveness' shows up in many mystical schools (distorted by
religious states of consciousness), is to complete the psychosomatic
balance within. (Nothing whatever to do with another), to allow the
'timeless' state of consciousness to unfold, so when you do 'see' you
past states, you can see your earlier state with love and
understanding.
If not, you take on that past state once more.

I get the strong impression you are 'knocking on the door'.

It may surprise you to know, but I actually admire you more than most
on these groups. You have the courage of your own convictions, and are
sincere and genuine in your efforts.

BOfL

From: George Hammond on 3 May 2010 00:19

On Sun, 2 May 2010 19:53:38 -0700 (PDT),
"bigfletch8(a)gmail.com" <bigfletch8(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 3, 5:01�am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
>> LOGICAL PECULIARITIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
>
>
>Consider the following:
>
>Your biological structure is constantly dying and reforming.
>
>There is not one single cell in your body that is more than ten years
>old, the oldest being your skeletal cells.
>
>The structural rules to which you refer apply, funnily enough, to the
>"structure".
>
>Life creates structure, but is 'of itself' structureless. It is also
>timeless and space less, so what you are doing, is trying to define
>life from a structural and spacial perspective. Absolutely impossible
>to explain, but inevitable to understand (to become conscious of).
>
>
[Hammond]
Come down to earth BOfL. I realize you have a PhD in
theoretical physics. Frankly, that means you are
OVERQUALIFIED to undertake a scientific investigation of
God. You have simply got to allow a second rank scientist
with only a master's degree in theoretical physics undertake
the problem. Your expertise is sorely needed elsewhere for
more challenging scientific problems.
In the first place there is absolutely NO NEED to
scientifically explain what "life" is in order to
scientifically explain what God is. Let me give an example:
classical Relativity does not need to scientifically explain
what space and time actually are in order to prove that
classical gravity is explained as a Curvature of (OBJECTIVE)
space-time.

LIKEWISE science does not need to explain what "life" is in
order to prove that the classical God of history is a
curvature of (SUBJECTIVE) space-time.

THEREFORE your entire introductory argument is ABSOLUTELY
IRRELEVANT !

>What is the difference between Hammond now and Hammond ten years ago?
>The body is new, (although it is still 'following orders' from the
>genetic code). The only difference is the level of consciousness,
>which is the timeless reality you are inadvertently making reference
>to. Some people appear to remain static in such states. You dont
>normally find them in such arenas as this.
>
>Apply the ref. you make regarding meeting people 'in heaven', to
>meeting yourself many years ago. You would recognise your past self,
>but not the reverse. This is the basics to all interaction
>'supposidely' with others (and why there is an ever growing
>disenchantment with the 'romantic' world. It is NEVER about the other
>person, we are simply mirrors to others)
>
>
[Hammond]
I don't know where you're going here but you are
certainly off on a tangent. Childhood memories can last for
75 to 100 years. The cells of your body may change, but the
memory remains unchanged! Therefore the changing of the
cells in your body is again, an irrelevant non sequitur to
the scientific proof and explanation of the phenomenon of
"God".

>It gets confusing, particularly when some research departments in
>places like Harvard are starting to recognise genes which do effect
>the psyche.
>
>
>
[Hammond]
You have simply failed to recognize that all of these
microbiology details are absolutely IRRELEVANT to the
scientific explanation and proof of the existence of the
classical God of history (e.g. the God of the Bible).
The God of the Bible is caused by the secular trend
growth deficit of the human body particularly the brain.
This brain growth deficit slows down our mental speed and
makes the world bigger and faster than it actually is.
Analysis shows that this is a classic space time Curvature.
We only see a "curved" version of reality compared to what a
theoretically full-grown person would see. That nonexistent
legendary and mythical "full-grown" person being called
"God".
Obviously such a gross classical relativistic phenomenon
has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the cells of
our body are replaced every 10 years..... nothing
whatsoever!
Two first-order, the Hammond of 10 years ago is the same
as the Hammond of today. All other effects such as aging,
hair loss, and having read another 200 books are only the
second order effects by comparison and have absolutely
nothing to do with the scientific explanation and proof of
the God of the Bible.
Finally, your reaction is absolutely typical of a
first-class scientific mind which is overqualified to deal
with what is essentially nothing but a psychological
problem.... even though it turns out to be described
mathematically by the theory of General Relativity.

>This is because, although psychosomatic connection is well established
>(they are actually discovering the biological link.... one of the
>first conjectures was 'the criminal gene') that link is rather like
>the modem linking your comp. to the internet.
>
>We each have the capacity to develop a state of consciousness which
>transcends the psychosomatic. One of the reasons that the term
>'forgiveness' shows up in many mystical schools (distorted by
>religious states of consciousness), is to complete the psychosomatic
>balance within. (Nothing whatever to do with another), to allow the
>'timeless' state of consciousness to unfold, so when you do 'see' you
>past states, you can see your earlier state with love and
>understanding.
>If not, you take on that past state once more.
>
>
>
[Hammond]
Whoa professor! The reason we are able to experience
"mystical" or "altered states of consciousness" is simply
that due to the brain growth deficit and the phenomenon of
"repression" which is an artificial brain growth deficit,
the "apparent curvature" of our own personal subjective
space time is in fact VARIABLE. As this "curvature of
reality" fluctuates say plus or minus 5% due to stress,
meditation, drugs, unusual experience, shock, love, ecstasy,
depression etc. etc. what happens is that your "reality" is
"transcendentally modulated" and we call these "altered
states of consciousness". This is nothing but a CLASSICAL
RELATIVISTIC CURVATURE modulation of reality, and this
effect is commonly known as GOD.
God is not as complicated as particle physics and quantum
field theory by a long shot..... actually it's no more
complicated than plain vanilla General Relativity! So put
away the cannons, physics only needs a peashooter to solve
this one..... thanks to Einstein who has already done the
heavy lifting. GOD IS SIMPLY AN APPLIED GENERAL RELATIVITY
PROBLEM!

>I get the strong impression you are 'knocking on the door'.
>
>
[Hammond]
Look again BOfL... I've already kicked in the door !

In my recent post I am discussing a possible phenomenon
of life after death. Again theory is a simple classical
physics theory. Hameroff and Penrose have shown that the
microtubule system of the brain routinely handles the same
kind of high-level information that the neuronal system
handles. Furthermore it is now generally believed that the
microtubule system is the long sought for "Engram" of the
human memory system.
The point is that it is KNOWN that the microtubule system
of the brain survives human death by at least 30 minutes.
And it is known that information flows in the microtubule
system and microwave frequencies ( Froehlich's frequency
10^11 Hz) this is 100 million times higher frequency than
the neuronal firing frequency in the brain. This means that
a pre-recorded "death dream" stored in the microtubule
memory could be read out in a fraction of a second after
death but would be subjectively experienced in real proper
time. Hence the bedside observer would see a person die in
a fraction of a second but according to the dearly departed
he would live on for say a year in a cyber paradise (aka
Heaven).
Now we already know that God is a classic relativistic
time dilation, therefore it should come as no surprise that
life after death so-called is actually nothing but a time
dilated afterlife "microtubule virtual-reality". And since
the microtubule system exists in every single cell of the
body and is completely interconnected, it is actually the
"real body" it is going to experience this life after death!
Now I submit, but that is a very simple theory, that does
not require vast philosophical analysis, nor does it require
the higher reaches of theoretical physics to understand.

The upshot is, that I am firmly of the opinion that a
plausible scientific theory of the possibility of life after
death has been found.

Whether or not it's true of course is something that only
the future can tell.

>It may surprise you to know, but I actually admire you more than most
>on these groups. You have the courage of your own convictions, and are
>sincere and genuine in your efforts.
>
>BOfL
>
>
[Hammond]
Yeah, that's what they said at Caesar's funeral too!
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From: Benj on 3 May 2010 03:37

On May 2, 5:01 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> LOGICAL PECULIARITIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
>
> Copyright George Hammond 2010
>
> Note: "LAD" = "Life After Death"
>
> Note: Please point out any logical inconsistencies
>
> It occurs to me that there must be certain structural
> rules as to what can or cannot occur in life after death
> (LAD). If we assume that LAD is basically a revisitation of
> Earthly life, then the first thing we deduce is that it
> cannot be possible for you to return to Earth at a date
> later your date of death. The reason for this is simple; it
> would be possible for you to meet someone who had attended
> your funeral or read your obituary and knew that you were
> already dead. This would present an illogical paradox which
> cannot be allowed in our scientific view of LAD.
>
> So the first structural rule must be that you can never
> observe a calendar day which postdates the date of your
> death. Likewise, you apparently cannot meet people who are
> already dead in Heaven at a date later than the date of
> their death either, because other people still alive would
> likewise notice them also!

[Portion of copyrighted nonsense speculations used under "fair use"
for purposes of review]
(idiot)

If you are going to speculate on life after death you had better get
some definitions as to what you are talking about straight in your
head first. What is "life" and What is "death"? According to various
revealed religions the theory is that "life" consists of self-aware
beings capable of actions. Defining life is a very difficult task, but
the salient point here is that under religious theory, life is
multidimensional. Life consists of the three usual dimensions as well
as time of which we and animals (and most likely plants etc. too) are
aware. But life also consists of additional unseen dimensions (it is
no physical stretch that additional dimensions are unseen) as well.
These additional dimensions have been termed in various words
including "soul", "Spirit", "astral", "etheric", and so on. Some
revealed religions suggest that there are quite a few of these
additional dimensions. Life (such as you) exists in at least some of
these additional dimensions.

Death under the religious theory consists of the loss of the three
lower dimensions. Death as viewed by Social Darwinists (such as Uncle
rect-Al) is said to consist of the loss of ALL dimensions (and usually
any higher dimensions are denied) Under Social Darwinism death
constitutes the end of all life activities including self-awareness,
thought, mind, memory, etc. Evidence, however, is with the revealed
theory. Hints include existence of ghost phenomena, near death
experiences, necromancy, etc. The suggestion is that mind and memory
are not simply functions of 3-D brains but find origin in higher
dimensions and do not terminate at so-called "death".

For this reason your theory is total logical bullshit. Mind and memory
continue unhindered after death. Hints of such phenomena occur in
ghosts apparently not knowing they are dead or in near death
experiences where a "person" [obviously NOT the "body"] floats to the
ceiling while watching doctors working feverishly to save the 3-D
body. So, if one marks as "death" the point where the higher
dimensional body leaves the 3-D body, then clearly your theory that
nobody can "see" anything that occurs after "death" is simply wrong.
And why should it not be wrong? If mind and memory are functions of
higher dimensions and unchanged in death then their function continues
after death unmodified.

However, the USUAL phenomena is that your continued higher dimensional
functions is no longer able to communicate with those left attached to
the 3-D world (in other words still alive). Evidence is that while
certainly "you", which is to say your mind and higher dimensional part
can attend your own funeral, you can't usually tell anybody you were
there! There appear to be a few exceptions to this rule but only a
few which means that nobody actually believes it when it occurs. Most
people are not real scientists and (like Uncle Al) are unable to tell
the difference between reality and fraud and hence regard rare or even
unrepeatable events as fraud or delusion.

On the other hand if one takes the Social Darwinist theory as valid,
then at death ALL activity ceases so there can be no "life after
death" and hence no possibility of any such existence or
communication. The idea of any communication with a dead brain is
nonsense and idiocy (as AL notes).

So based upon EITHER theory, your theory is total bunk. And even
though copyrighted it is poorly conceived and worthless.

I suggest you take some holy books back to your cave, contemplate your
navel and come back when you have it all worked out.

(idiot)

From: bigfletch8 on 3 May 2010 05:14

On May 3, 12:19 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2 May 2010 19:53:38 -0700 (PDT),
>
>
>
>
>
> "bigflet...(a)gmail.com" <bigflet...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 3, 5:01 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> >> LOGICAL PECULIARITIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
>
> >Consider the following:
>
> >Your biological structure is constantly dying and reforming.
>
> >There is not one single cell in your body that is more than ten years
> >old, the oldest being your skeletal cells.
>
> >The structural rules to which you refer apply, funnily enough, to the
> >"structure".
>
> >Life creates structure, but is 'of itself' structureless. It is also
> >timeless and space less, so what you are doing, is trying to define
> >life from a structural and spacial perspective. Absolutely impossible
> >to explain, but inevitable to understand (to become conscious of).
>
> [Hammond]
> Come down to earth BOfL. I realize you have a PhD in
> theoretical physics.

I wish I had have known that. I would have charged more for my
services.
You really do have a 'qualification' phobea.

> Frankly, that means you are
> OVERQUALIFIED to undertake a scientific investigation of
> God.

Ever considered a scientific investigation of science?Thats where you
will find your curvature, but more like a helix if observed from a
fourth dimension.

It would have been more accurate to say 'underqualified to
overtake'..

> You have simply got to allow a second rank scientist
> with only a master's degree in theoretical physics undertake
> the problem.

You can be so childish...

> Your expertise is sorely needed elsewhere for
> more challenging scientific problems.
> In the first place there is absolutely NO NEED to
> scientifically explain what "life" is in order to
> scientifically explain what God is.

Science can only explain what life isnt,(the effect of life) and you
are trying to relate "what isnt" to God!

Scientificully explain dna A strand of proteins shaped in the form of
a helix, with chromasomes which swich off and on, sending signals to
the cells.

Got it! We can all now go home and attend to the garden or go
fishing...

> Let me give an example:
> classical Relativity does not need to scientifically explain
> what space and time actually are in order to prove that
> classical gravity is explained as a Curvature of (OBJECTIVE)
> space-time.

And thats why is is known as the theory of relativity.

Space and time a purely mental constructs (actually the essence of
subjectivity, to which, most go along with, giving the illusion of
objectivity). The mind works only in theory ..capiche? and is why only
a theory of God can be speculated, which, by definition, will be
anthropomorphic.

> LIKEWISE science does not need to explain what "life" is in
> order to prove that the classical God of history is a
> curvature of (SUBJECTIVE) space-time.

Classical God? By what objective? Do you include a Quantum God by the
same reference?
>
> THEREFORE your entire introductory argument is ABSOLUTELY
> IRRELEVANT !

I wasnt making an argument. I leave that to the relativity wrestlers.

>
> >What is the difference between Hammond now and Hammond ten years ago?
> >The body is new, (although it is still 'following orders' from the
> >genetic code). The only difference is the level of consciousness,
> >which is the timeless reality you are inadvertently making reference
> >to. Some people appear to remain static in such states. You dont
> >normally find them in such arenas as this.
>
> >Apply the ref. you make regarding meeting people 'in heaven', to
> >meeting yourself many years ago. You would recognise your past self,
> >but not the reverse. This is the basics to all interaction
> >'supposidely' with others (and why there is an ever growing
> >disenchantment with the 'romantic' world. It is NEVER about the other
> >person, we are simply mirrors to others)
>
> [Hammond]
> I don't know where you're going here but you are
> certainly off on a tangent. Childhood memories can last for
> 75 to 100 years. The cells of your body may change, but the
> memory remains unchanged!

Thats a big step....you need to put further investigation to such
tangents.

> Therefore the changing of the
> cells in your body is again, an irrelevant non sequitur to
> the scientific proof and explanation of the phenomenon of
> "God".

Correct. Another area of elimination. Not about cells or memory. Where
does your proof sit,if not in the memory?
>
> >It gets confusing, particularly when some research departments in
> >places like Harvard are starting to recognise genes which do effect
> >the psyche.
>
> [Hammond]
> You have simply failed to recognize that all of these
> microbiology details are absolutely IRRELEVANT to the
> scientific explanation and proof of the existence of the
> classical God of history (e.g. the God of the Bible).

Ohh THAT classic. Would that be the ref to the entity that ordered
mass extermination/ethnic cleansing?

Sounds like you are still steeped in religious dogma, and it is
coloring your efforts.

> The God of the Bible is caused by the secular trend
> growth deficit of the human body particularly the brain.

So suddenly the cells ARE important. (Brain also recycles...but as you
said , the memories linger on. Much longer than you have alluded to.

They 'cause' God? By anthropomorphising the missing links' Thats how
the mid is stimulated to create.Like a migratory birds 'homing' sense.

To the mind of an astronomer, God is the cosmos.

> This brain growth deficit slows down our mental speed and
> makes the world bigger and faster than it actually is.

Correct, but you have to take that further. Actually 'is' has nothing
to do with 'bigger, faster, smaller larger'...that is the realm of
relativity once more.

> Analysis shows that this is a classic space time Curvature.
> We only see a "curved" version of reality compared to what a
> theoretically full-grown person would see. That nonexistent
> legendary and mythical "full-grown" person being called
> "God".

An individual has the capacity for 360 deg vision, so you are on
track. In "no time" does that consciousness exist. Beyond matter
energy space and time.

> Obviously such a gross classical relativistic phenomenon
> has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the cells of
> our body are replaced every 10 years..... nothing
> whatsoever!

You have to understand the limitations of the biological structure,and
its binary nature, to move on.

> Two first-order, the Hammond of 10 years ago is the same
> as the Hammond of today. All other effects such as aging,
> hair loss, and having read another 200 books are only the
> second order effects by comparison and have absolutely
> nothing to do with the scientific explanation and proof of
> the God of the Bible.

So you are no more conscious today than you were then? Accumulation of
information is avery different ball game.

> Finally, your reaction is absolutely typical of a
> first-class scientific mind which is overqualified to deal
> with what is essentially nothing but a psychological
> problem.... even though it turns out to be described
> mathematically by the theory of General Relativity.

Im involved in absolutes, not theories.

> >This is because, although psychosomatic connection is well established
> >(they are actually discovering the biological link.... one of the
> >first conjectures was 'the criminal gene') that link is rather like
> >the modem linking your comp. to the internet.
>
> >We each have the capacity to develop a state of consciousness which
> >transcends the psychosomatic. One of the reasons that the term
> >'forgiveness' shows up in many mystical schools (distorted by
> >religious states of consciousness), is to complete the psychosomatic
> >balance within. (Nothing whatever to do with another), to allow the
> >'timeless' state of consciousness to unfold, so when you do 'see' you
> >past states, you can see your earlier state with love and
> >understanding.
> >If not, you take on that past state once more.
>
> [Hammond]
> Whoa professor! The reason we are able to experience
> "mystical" or "altered states of consciousness" is simply
> that due to the brain growth deficit and the phenomenon of
> "repression" which is an artificial brain growth deficit,
> the "apparent curvature" of our own personal subjective
> space time is in fact VARIABLE.

You are confusing cause with effect.

> As this "curvature of
> reality" fluctuates say plus or minus 5% due to stress,
> meditation, drugs, unusual experience, shock, love, ecstasy,
> depression etc. etc. what happens is that your "reality" is
> "transcendentally modulated" and we call these "altered
> states of consciousness". This is nothing but a CLASSICAL
> RELATIVISTIC CURVATURE modulation of reality, and this
> effect is commonly known as GOD.

An interesting use of the word 'common'.

Anything that 'appears', whether 5% or 95% out of sync with our
accumulated experiences, acivates the need for such
anthropomorphacising. Just as the brain only adapts to the second and
subsequent 'new experience'. We see a 'winged serpent' (as many of our
ancestors did) we project 'God'.

Today we conjecture on scientifically logical visions of aliens, we
see explaination.

> God is not as complicated as particle physics and quantum
> field theory by a long shot..... actually it's no more
> complicated than plain vanilla General Relativity! So put
> away the cannons, physics only needs a peashooter to solve
> this one..... thanks to Einstein who has already done the
> heavy lifting. GOD IS SIMPLY AN APPLIED GENERAL RELATIVITY
> PROBLEM!

Just as water is a life support system for a fish....I see you used
the word PROBLEM. The mind always leaves clues.
>
> >I get the strong impression you are 'knocking on the door'.
>
> [Hammond]
> Look again BOfL... I've already kicked in the door !

I only hear banging...and often childish tantrums. You are certsainly
out of on door, but are currently in a relative anti space.
>
> In my recent post I am discussing a possible phenomenon
> of life after death. Again theory is a simple classical
> physics theory. Hameroff and Penrose have shown that the
> microtubule system of the brain routinely handles the same
> kind of high-level information that the neuronal system
> handles. Furthermore it is now generally believed that the
> microtubule system is the long sought for "Engram" of the
> human memory system.
> The point is that it is KNOWN that the microtubule system
> of the brain survives human death by at least 30 minutes.

It is also known that time is a mental construct. The microtuble
system is fully active throughout physical life also and fascillitates
the experiences to which you are referring. Anything biological is
made of the same replenishing cells, and is ONLY ever part of a
storage and retrieval system of information.

> And it is known that information flows in the microtubule
> system and microwave frequencies ( Froehlich's frequency
> 10^11 Hz) this is 100 million times higher frequency than
> the neuronal firing frequency in the brain. This means that
> a pre-recorded "death dream" stored in the microtubule
> memory could be read out in a fraction of a second after
> death but would be subjectively experienced in real proper
> time.

Correct, but as you alluded to, this 'replays' a death dream. It is
very common for people to report their past life pictures emerging
rapidly during a life threatening crisis. There are also more subtle
memories that can appear, bringing up religious or mystical 'images'.

>Hence the bedside observer would see a person die in
> a fraction of a second but according to the dearly departed
> he would live on for say a year in a cyber paradise (aka
> Heaven).

Or Hell, depending on the absorbed and replayed experiences.

> Now we already know that God is a classic relativistic
> time dilation,

You really spoil your validity with making such brash statements, but,
hey, you already know this process is not about popularity.

>therefore it should come as no surprise that
> life after death so-called is actually nothing but a time
> dilated afterlife "microtubule virtual-reality".

Thats equivalent to saying 'water is nothing more than melted ice'.

>And since
> the microtubule system exists in every single cell of the
> body and is completely interconnected, it is actually the
> "real body" it is going to experience this life after death!

The source of memory, by your own logic, is 'beyond' the biological
framework.

It is in fact a 'real body', but just another relative, more subtle
version ( ref. to parallel universes ).

> Now I submit, but that is a very simple theory, that does
> not require vast philosophical analysis, nor does it require
> the higher reaches of theoretical physics to understand.

It is supported by both, and understood clearer from both disciplines,
which may surprise you, given you spend all of your time in a battle
ground.
>
> The upshot is, that I am firmly of the opinion that a
> plausible scientific theory of the possibility of life after
> death has been found.

And we are back to the definition of life once more.
>
> Whether or not it's true of course is something that only
> the future can tell.

George, remember the old adage "It's about time?"...it is not. It is
about consciousness expansion, and how we individually let go of every
step we encounter. To not do so, creates fior the individual,
precisley what you are experienciing.
>
> >It may surprise you to know, but I actually admire you more than most
> >on these groups. You have the courage of your own convictions, and are
> >sincere and genuine in your efforts.
>
> >BOfL
>
> [Hammond]
> Yeah, that's what they said at Caesar's funeral too!

Yes, but that particular one choked on his own ceaesar salad :-)

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