LS9/16 - not the desk for me
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From: Phildo on 17 Nov 2008 17:45 "George's Pro Sound Company" <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OdadnXP5xsYxb7zUnZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > I offer your problem was lack of experiance rather than any fault with the > desk I have plenty of experience on digital boards and much prefer them but with this board it simply wasn;t intuitive enough to walk up to and do what I needed to do on in the limitged time available. > it is very user friendly and dead simple to learn on the fly I've used plenty of digital boards and this one I simply do not like because they have shrunk it so there are not enough knobs available for what I do. I was able to mix on it and do pretty much everything I wanted within a couple of minutes but found it awkward to use. There was no time to set any user defined keys etc. > I don't know of any digital desk that is easier for the untrained to get > up to speed on M7CL, A&H I-live, any of the digicos. Phildo
From: George's Pro Sound Company on 17 Nov 2008 17:46 "Phildo" <Phil(a)phildo.net> wrote in message news:1umUk.99849$5L2.57780(a)newsfe12.ams2... > > "George's Pro Sound Company" <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OdadnXP5xsYxb7zUnZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> I offer your problem was lack of experiance rather than any fault with >> the desk > > I have plenty of experience on digital boards and much prefer them but > with this board it simply wasn;t intuitive enough to walk up to and do > what I needed to do on in the limitged time available. > >> it is very user friendly and dead simple to learn on the fly > > I've used plenty of digital boards and this one I simply do not like > because they have shrunk it so there are not enough knobs available for > what I do. I was able to mix on it and do pretty much everything I wanted > within a couple of minutes but found it awkward to use. There was no time > to set any user defined keys etc. > >> I don't know of any digital desk that is easier for the untrained to get >> up to speed on > > M7CL, A&H I-live, any of the digicos. > > Phildo no I live's or digi-co around here but we will disagree on the m7 > >
From: Eeyore on 17 Nov 2008 18:07 Phildo wrote: > "hank alrich" <walkinay(a)nv.net> wrote in message > > George's Pro Sound Company <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> Learn the user defined keys function > > > > Good idea! > > You miss the point. I was a briefcaser walking up to the desk for the first > time. I was expecting a GL3300 according to what we had been told and the > gig was running very late so had very little time to learn the board. My > whole point is that the board is not intuitive or well thought out enough to > be able to use without some proper time on it first. Unlike the MC7L or the > A&H boards you can't just walk up to it and mix so it is really not a > suitable board for any gig where a briefcase engineer will have to use it > without any training. Thank you for making the point I have been preaching to YOU for several years. Graham
From: Eeyore on 17 Nov 2008 18:19 George's Pro Sound Company wrote: > I actually know how your feeling decades ago > I remember when I rented stacks and racks for a show and they were dropped > off with a omnidrive ,,not a traditional xover > that was a scary day > I swore NEVER again would one of those damn things cross my path > > but eventually I learned how to use one and became rather indiffrent to them > > I also loath the little Midas desks but if thats what is offered I know > enough work arounds to make it functional. I had to service one of those recently. I have never previously come across such a dysfunctionally constructed product and dysfunctional tech support. Graham
From: Eeyore on 17 Nov 2008 18:21
Eeyore wrote: > George's Pro Sound Company wrote: > > > I actually know how your feeling decades ago > > I remember when I rented stacks and racks for a show and they were dropped > > off with a omnidrive ,,not a traditional xover > > that was a scary day > > I swore NEVER again would one of those damn things cross my path > > > > but eventually I learned how to use one and became rather indiffrent to them > > > > I also loath the little Midas desks but if thats what is offered I know > > enough work arounds to make it functional. > > I had to service one of those recently. > > I have never previously come across such a dysfunctionally constructed product > and dysfunctional tech support. Oh, and a parts lists that didn't even list any resistor values ! I reckon they're going down the tubes. Graham |