From: Eeyore on 19 Nov 2008 18:57 liquidator wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > > > > Horses for courses. I can do better on my Nikon DSLR > > > > Cost ? Plus how many lenses ? > > Living in the past Graham. A good DSLR is less than a good film camera cost Not by my reckoning. > less than 20 years ago, And my Nikon can use my old nikon lenses from my F3. Well that's sensible at least although isn't the focal length now different ? > > > than most can with any 35. > > > > Depends on film speed as much as anything. > > Certain film speeds are only useful for certain jobs...you have a "craft" > mentality versus a working photog mentality...and of course different films > can be warmer or colder depending on desired results... Ever read this ? http://www.amazon.com/New-Manual-Photography-John-Hedgecoe/dp/0789496372 I have the original edition. > > > Good tools can make a good workman better- the best tools in the world > > > won't help a poor one. > > > > > > BTW most quality work done these days in photo is digital. > > > > Sure, for convenience if nothing else but those models are WELL pricey and > > look more like a 35mm SLR (exchangable lenses and so on). > > Most quality studio digital isn't 35mm...neither was it in film...but yeah, > that stuff IS pricey. In the past, studios would often use Hasselblads. What's the resolution of 2-1/4" sq ? Nearly bought a 2-1/4" sq SLR once too ! It was a bargain price. Oh I was SO tempted. It was a Horseman and took Nikon lenses IIRC. > For cheap and good, a Nikon D60 is hard to beat...bottom feeder dealers go > as low as $350 in the US- I don't consider that expensive at all. The camera > is better than 99.9% of the photogs on the planet...how good is needed? If I had some Nikon lenses I might be tempted. Considered a Nikon F1 once. Have Pentax got an equivalent ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 19 Nov 2008 19:00 Eeyore wrote: > liquidator wrote: > > > > Certain film speeds are only useful for certain jobs...you have a "craft" > > mentality versus a working photog mentality...and of course different films > > can be warmer or colder depending on desired results... > > Ever read this ? > http://www.amazon.com/New-Manual-Photography-John-Hedgecoe/dp/0789496372 > I have the original edition. Sorry, the 1st edition of this one. http://www.amazon.com/Photographers-Handbook-Third-Revised/dp/0679742042 Graham
From: Joe Kotroczo on 19 Nov 2008 20:08 On 19/11/08 17:54, in article j6ydnS0Aq8Jfz7nUnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d(a)earthlink.com, "George's Pro Sound Company" <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote: (...) >>>> >>>>> I'll bet ! I foresee no trouble whatever continuing to >>>>> sell analogue desks for decades. >>>> > > hell you can still buy steel hoops for your wood spoked wagon wheels > as long as SOMEONE will pay for it, someone else will sell it I hear that AC/DC is touring with a restored Midas Pro40. -- Joe Kotroczo kotroczo(a)mac.com
From: liquidator on 19 Nov 2008 20:39 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4924A4B4.1670CBAB(a)hotmail.com... > > > liquidator wrote: > > > When leaded solder went away, defect rates on the 3216 skyrocketed. It just > > wasn't economical any more. > > > > They continued to be available for some time in markets where lead free > > solder wasn't mandated. > > Tin whiskers you reckon ? > > Graham > Hmmm- you might have nailed it. Mostly, it was around the processor AIUI. There are lots of tiny connections close together. I hear the failure rate went up to an incredible number, the cost of re-dos was very high.
From: liquidator on 19 Nov 2008 21:20
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4924A88C.5AB2731B(a)hotmail.com... > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > liquidator wrote: > > > > > > Certain film speeds are only useful for certain jobs...you have a "craft" > > > mentality versus a working photog mentality...and of course different films > > > can be warmer or colder depending on desired results... > > > > Ever read this ? > > http://www.amazon.com/New-Manual-Photography-John-Hedgecoe/dp/0789496372 > > I have the original edition. > > Sorry, the 1st edition of this one. > http://www.amazon.com/Photographers-Handbook-Third-Revised/dp/0679742042 > > Graham > Was the original version late 70's with a different cover? |