Large Hadron Collider QUAKES?
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From: Puppet_Sock on 19 Apr 2010 13:47 On Apr 18, 4:35 pm, Just Me <jpd...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 18, 2:48 pm, Just Me <jpd...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 18, 9:08 am, "Cwatters" > > > Cern uses a lot of energy but isn't it small compared to say the tidal > > > energy from the moon? > > Two completely different kinds of energy. The amount of energy used by > the LHC is one thing, the output in magnetic energy radiated into the > liquid iron core of the earth is quite another. Tidal forces are > gravitational and because the earth's liquid core is entirely enclosed > no surface wave motion can physically occur. But by force of magnetism > the motion is molecular, the wave motion is sub-surface by electro- > magnetic pulse every time the monstrous thing is turned off and on; > something a tidal force cannot produce. In other words: Yes, the energy of the LHC is microscopic in comparison to the energy that drives earthquakes and volcanism. In addition, the coupling is vanishingly small and the shielding large, such that almost none of the energy that the LHC does radiate ever makes it more than a few meters into the Earth. And Just Me is a dingbat. The heat flux out of the Earth is 10's of kW per square km on average. The energy over the surface of the Earth is in the neighbourhood of 4E13 Watts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_(geology) Total power use at the LHC, cryonics and magnets and lights in the cafeteria, all in, is less than 2E8 Watts. And a significant part of that is expended as heat in pumps and such. Only a tiny fraction of that is released as electromagnetic energy. And, as already indicated, only a tiny fraction of that will get more than a few meters into the Earth, the fraction dropping rapidly with increasing depth. The core of the Earth isn't being heated by the LHC. Socks
From: Just Me on 19 Apr 2010 14:06 The "Conspiracy Chicks" agree -- "CERN Restart Large Hadron Collider- Earth Quakes Jump 10x!" . . . http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread549058/pg1 And the women of Malaya are asking the SAME questions! http://www.zimbio.com/CERN+Hadron+Collider/articles/236/CERN+responsible+earthquakes+Iran+Indonesia When the Conspiracy Chicks speak, the world listens. Dig it: Fermilab accelerator jars the ground of northern Illinois . . . http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread542995/pg1 Will anyone question my sources, such as to suggest that the Conspiracy Chicks are NOT physicists? What a CHEAP SHOT! But just never mind. The WHOLE WORLD is talking, and has been ever since that big trouble back in 2008 . . . http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1098.htm -- JM
From: Just Me on 19 Apr 2010 15:36 On Apr 19, 12:47 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 18, 4:35 pm, Just Me <jpd...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 18, 2:48 pm, Just Me <jpd...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 18, 9:08 am, "Cwatters" > > > > Cern uses a lot of energy but isn't it small compared to say the tidal > > > > energy from the moon? > > > Two completely different kinds of energy. The amount of energy used by > > the LHC is one thing, the output in magnetic energy radiated into the > > liquid iron core of the earth is quite another. Tidal forces are > > gravitational and because the earth's liquid core is entirely enclosed > > no surface wave motion can physically occur. But by force of magnetism > > the motion is molecular, the wave motion is sub-surface by electro- > > magnetic pulse every time the monstrous thing is turned off and on; > > something a tidal force cannot produce. > > In other words: > > Yes, the energy of the LHC is microscopic in comparison to the > energy that drives earthquakes and volcanism. In addition, the > coupling is vanishingly small and the shielding large, such that > almost none of the energy that the LHC does radiate ever makes > it more than a few meters into the Earth. > > And Just Me is a dingbat. Sez who? A "sock puppet". > > The heat flux out of the Earth is 10's of kW per square km on > average. The energy over the surface of the Earth is in the > neighbourhood of 4E13 Watts. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_(geology) > > Total power use at the LHC, cryonics and magnets and lights in > the cafeteria, all in, is less than 2E8 Watts. And a significant part > of that is expended as heat in pumps and such. Only a tiny > fraction of that is released as electromagnetic energy. And, > as already indicated, only a tiny fraction of that will get more > than a few meters into the Earth, the fraction dropping rapidly > with increasing depth. > > The core of the Earth isn't being heated by the LHC. > Socks What makes you think I'm talking about "heat"? I said nothing about heat. -- JM
From: Cwatters on 19 Apr 2010 16:17 "Just Me" <jpdm45(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:e91415d5-b111-478e-875d-cd9b6d16541a(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Apr 19, 12:47 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Total power use at the LHC, cryonics and magnets and lights in >> the cafeteria, all in, is less than 2E8 Watts. And a significant part >> of that is expended as heat in pumps and such. Only a tiny >> fraction of that is released as electromagnetic energy. And, >> as already indicated, only a tiny fraction of that will get more >> than a few meters into the Earth, the fraction dropping rapidly >> with increasing depth. >> >> The core of the Earth isn't being heated by the LHC. >> Socks > >What makes you think I'm talking about "heat"? I said nothing about >heat. >-- >JM His point wasn't about heat either.
From: nuny on 19 Apr 2010 16:53 On Apr 19, 11:06 am, Just Me <jpd...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The "Conspiracy Chicks" agree -- "CERN Restart Large Hadron Collider- > Earth Quakes Jump 10x!" . . . > > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread549058/pg1 > > And the women of Malaya are asking the SAME questions! > > http://www.zimbio.com/CERN+Hadron+Collider/articles/236/CERN+responsi... > > When the Conspiracy Chicks speak, the world listens. Dig it: Fermilab > accelerator jars the ground of northern Illinois . . . > > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread542995/pg1 > > Will anyone question my sources, such as to suggest that the > Conspiracy Chicks are NOT physicists? > > What a CHEAP SHOT! > > But just never mind. The WHOLE WORLD is talking, and has been ever > since that big trouble back in 2008 . . . > > http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1098.htm If they're chicks, they're part of the disinfo effort. Proof: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9F698N00&show_article=1 Mark L. Fergerson
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