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From: John Larkin on 30 Jul 2010 16:24 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:10:19 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:13:48 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:49:38 -0500, John Fields >><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:30:43 -0700, John Larkin >>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:04:41 -0500, John Fields >>>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:15:03 -0500, John Fields >>>>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>>>On F>> >>>>>>On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:38:45 -0700, John Larkin >>>>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>>>Charge is measured in coulombs. Force is measured in newtons. So how >>>>>>>is charge "a measure of force"? >>>>>> >>>>>>--- >>>>>>news:2apl46hr8s01os8dv1aipdm19bcf64nec4(a)4ax.com >>>>> >>>>>--- >>>>>Oh, and the first sentence of the cited Wikipedia article reads: >>>>> >>>>>"Electric charge is a physical property of matter which causes it >>>>>to experience a force when near other electrically charged matter." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>JF >>>> >>>>If you experience a pig, does that make you a pig? >>> >>>--- >>>That's just a silly diversionary tactic; measuring a force doesn't >>>make you the force. >>>--- >>> >>>>Look at the SI units if you want to determine if things are the same. >>> >>>--- >>>That's just another silly diversionary tactic. >> >>Were you ever taught dimensional analysis? >> >>Obviously not. Give it a try: >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis >> >>The basic concept is that you can test all sorts of relationships for >>plausibility by reducing their SI units. If the units don't agree, the >>things can't be equal. Newtons aren't coulombs, so charge can't be >>force. It's that simple. >> >>They taught us this our first freshman semister in EE school, in a >>course called "Engineering Design Analysis" which was taught in a >>small classroom by the Dean of Engineering, just to get us started on >>the right track. It's been a great friend ever since. >> >>John > >So sorry that you had to wait to get dimensional analysis until >college, i got it in my sohpmore year physics in high school. Oooh, you win. John
From: John Fields on 30 Jul 2010 18:33 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:24:04 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:23:24 -0700, >"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Explain "abuses." We are rigid about using SI units and keeping our >dimensions straight. Coulombs are not a measure of force. --- Of course not, but they can be used to measure force. --- >>Grow up some, Mr. Businessman, and acknowledge what you have become >>really good at: the regular manufacture of test equipment at >>reasonable prices. > >Sorry, I'm a design engineer, and I leave all the money, marketing, >sales, and management to others. --- Strange, then, that we hear you remark about the prices of parts on occasion. --- >And our products ate *not* reasonably priced. Of all the nerve! --- So you're not entirely bereft of humor? It's a new dawn!!!
From: Jim Thompson on 30 Jul 2010 18:53 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:33:44 -0500, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:24:04 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:23:24 -0700, >>"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Explain "abuses." We are rigid about using SI units and keeping our >>dimensions straight. Coulombs are not a measure of force. > >--- >Of course not, but they can be used to measure force. >--- > >>>Grow up some, Mr. Businessman, and acknowledge what you have become >>>really good at: the regular manufacture of test equipment at >>>reasonable prices. >> >>Sorry, I'm a design engineer, and I leave all the money, marketing, >>sales, and management to others. > >--- >Strange, then, that we hear you remark about the prices of parts on >occasion. >--- > >>And our products ate *not* reasonably priced. Of all the nerve! > >--- >So you're not entirely bereft of humor? > >It's a new dawn!!! Time for another martini ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: krw on 30 Jul 2010 19:06 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:33:44 -0500, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:24:04 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:23:24 -0700, >>"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Explain "abuses." We are rigid about using SI units and keeping our >>dimensions straight. Coulombs are not a measure of force. > >--- >Of course not, but they can be used to measure force. >--- > >>>Grow up some, Mr. Businessman, and acknowledge what you have become >>>really good at: the regular manufacture of test equipment at >>>reasonable prices. >> >>Sorry, I'm a design engineer, and I leave all the money, marketing, >>sales, and management to others. > >--- >Strange, then, that we hear you remark about the prices of parts on >occasion. I don't have *anything* to do with the business, marketing, management, or even personnel, but certainly do know what we pay for parts. Cost *is* part of engineering. >--- > >>And our products ate *not* reasonably priced. Of all the nerve! > >--- >So you're not entirely bereft of humor? > >It's a new dawn!!!
From: krw on 30 Jul 2010 19:07
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:10:19 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:13:48 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:49:38 -0500, John Fields >><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:30:43 -0700, John Larkin >>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:04:41 -0500, John Fields >>>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:15:03 -0500, John Fields >>>>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>>>On F>> >>>>>>On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:38:45 -0700, John Larkin >>>>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>>>Charge is measured in coulombs. Force is measured in newtons. So how >>>>>>>is charge "a measure of force"? >>>>>> >>>>>>--- >>>>>>news:2apl46hr8s01os8dv1aipdm19bcf64nec4(a)4ax.com >>>>> >>>>>--- >>>>>Oh, and the first sentence of the cited Wikipedia article reads: >>>>> >>>>>"Electric charge is a physical property of matter which causes it >>>>>to experience a force when near other electrically charged matter." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>JF >>>> >>>>If you experience a pig, does that make you a pig? >>> >>>--- >>>That's just a silly diversionary tactic; measuring a force doesn't >>>make you the force. >>>--- >>> >>>>Look at the SI units if you want to determine if things are the same. >>> >>>--- >>>That's just another silly diversionary tactic. >> >>Were you ever taught dimensional analysis? >> >>Obviously not. Give it a try: >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis >> >>The basic concept is that you can test all sorts of relationships for >>plausibility by reducing their SI units. If the units don't agree, the >>things can't be equal. Newtons aren't coulombs, so charge can't be >>force. It's that simple. >> >>They taught us this our first freshman semister in EE school, in a >>course called "Engineering Design Analysis" which was taught in a >>small classroom by the Dean of Engineering, just to get us started on >>the right track. It's been a great friend ever since. >> >>John > >So sorry that you had to wait to get dimensional analysis until >college, i got it in my sohpmore year physics in high school. Same, though physics wasn't until the junior year. |