From: JosephKK on 31 Jul 2010 08:52 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:08:00 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:00:52 -0700, >"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:01:24 -0500, John Fields >><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:06:50 -0700, John Larkin >>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), George Herold >>>><gherold(a)teachspin.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>(I'm just tired of the snipping back and forth... I should have just >>>>>kept my mouth shut and moved on.) >>>>> >>>>>George H. >>>>>> >>>>>> John- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>>Just try injecting technical riffs - braininstorming in public - into >>>>the hen-clucking OT personal rants. Not only does that steer us back >>>>on topic, it annoys the hell out of some people who really deserve >>>>being annoyed. >>> >>>--- >>>Like this one?: >>> >>>I am so sick of grey, white, black, silver, and repulsive >>>pearl-colored cars. You can drive for blocks around here and see >>>nothing but asphalt-colored cars. When I saw that true-red Audi for >>>sale, I had to have it. >>> >>>That Mercedes is a decent shade of red, sort of arterial blood color. >>>I've started to see a few new cars on the street that are actual >>>colors, not just midnight blue or mud red, but *colors*. Maybe things >>>are turning around. >>> >>>Those Germans sure know how to make cars. 0-60 in 3.7 seconds isn't >>>bad at all. That's 0.75 Gs, if I did the math right. >>> >>>John >>> >>> >>>or this one?: >>> >>>Nobody is going to do anything serious about CO2. And maybe we >>>shouldn't anyhow. >>> >>>This is serious >>> >>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/28/MN5H1EK6BV.DTL >>> >>>and we *can* do something about it. >>> >>>John >> >>Given the well known issues with getting realistic data from SPICE >>which has well calibrated and tested models, do you really want to >>trust anybody making climate predictions with models whose very theory >>is suspect as well? Particularly when there is no track record of >>model testability or calibratability? > >Particulates aren't "climate predictions." They are soot that is real, >can be measured, causes health problems, and melts ice. And could be >reduced a lot, soon, if diesels, coal fired power plants, and things >like aluminum smelters were cleaned up. > >John > Do you ever answer a question straight? The climate predictions were in the link, a little above, that you provided. And they are the supposed motivators for the recommended action. Maybe you are just a knee-jerk liberal.
From: Jim Thompson on 31 Jul 2010 13:05 On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:52:24 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:08:00 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:00:52 -0700, >>"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:01:24 -0500, John Fields >>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:06:50 -0700, John Larkin >>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), George Herold >>>>><gherold(a)teachspin.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>(I'm just tired of the snipping back and forth... I should have just >>>>>>kept my mouth shut and moved on.) >>>>>> >>>>>>George H. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> >>>>>Just try injecting technical riffs - braininstorming in public - into >>>>>the hen-clucking OT personal rants. Not only does that steer us back >>>>>on topic, it annoys the hell out of some people who really deserve >>>>>being annoyed. >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Like this one?: >>>> >>>>I am so sick of grey, white, black, silver, and repulsive >>>>pearl-colored cars. You can drive for blocks around here and see >>>>nothing but asphalt-colored cars. When I saw that true-red Audi for >>>>sale, I had to have it. >>>> >>>>That Mercedes is a decent shade of red, sort of arterial blood color. >>>>I've started to see a few new cars on the street that are actual >>>>colors, not just midnight blue or mud red, but *colors*. Maybe things >>>>are turning around. >>>> >>>>Those Germans sure know how to make cars. 0-60 in 3.7 seconds isn't >>>>bad at all. That's 0.75 Gs, if I did the math right. >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>>> >>>>or this one?: >>>> >>>>Nobody is going to do anything serious about CO2. And maybe we >>>>shouldn't anyhow. >>>> >>>>This is serious >>>> >>>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/28/MN5H1EK6BV.DTL >>>> >>>>and we *can* do something about it. >>>> >>>>John >>> >>>Given the well known issues with getting realistic data from SPICE >>>which has well calibrated and tested models, do you really want to >>>trust anybody making climate predictions with models whose very theory >>>is suspect as well? Particularly when there is no track record of >>>model testability or calibratability? >> >>Particulates aren't "climate predictions." They are soot that is real, >>can be measured, causes health problems, and melts ice. And could be >>reduced a lot, soon, if diesels, coal fired power plants, and things >>like aluminum smelters were cleaned up. >> >>John >> >Do you ever answer a question straight? The climate predictions were >in the link, a little above, that you provided. And they are the >supposed motivators for the recommended action. Maybe you are just a >knee-jerk liberal. Possibly. I suspect Asperger's or manic-depressive... something requiring constantly being at the center of attention. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: John Larkin on 31 Jul 2010 13:09 On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:52:24 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:08:00 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:00:52 -0700, >>"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:01:24 -0500, John Fields >>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:06:50 -0700, John Larkin >>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), George Herold >>>>><gherold(a)teachspin.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>(I'm just tired of the snipping back and forth... I should have just >>>>>>kept my mouth shut and moved on.) >>>>>> >>>>>>George H. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> >>>>>Just try injecting technical riffs - braininstorming in public - into >>>>>the hen-clucking OT personal rants. Not only does that steer us back >>>>>on topic, it annoys the hell out of some people who really deserve >>>>>being annoyed. >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Like this one?: >>>> >>>>I am so sick of grey, white, black, silver, and repulsive >>>>pearl-colored cars. You can drive for blocks around here and see >>>>nothing but asphalt-colored cars. When I saw that true-red Audi for >>>>sale, I had to have it. >>>> >>>>That Mercedes is a decent shade of red, sort of arterial blood color. >>>>I've started to see a few new cars on the street that are actual >>>>colors, not just midnight blue or mud red, but *colors*. Maybe things >>>>are turning around. >>>> >>>>Those Germans sure know how to make cars. 0-60 in 3.7 seconds isn't >>>>bad at all. That's 0.75 Gs, if I did the math right. >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>>> >>>>or this one?: >>>> >>>>Nobody is going to do anything serious about CO2. And maybe we >>>>shouldn't anyhow. >>>> >>>>This is serious >>>> >>>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/28/MN5H1EK6BV.DTL >>>> >>>>and we *can* do something about it. >>>> >>>>John >>> >>>Given the well known issues with getting realistic data from SPICE >>>which has well calibrated and tested models, do you really want to >>>trust anybody making climate predictions with models whose very theory >>>is suspect as well? Particularly when there is no track record of >>>model testability or calibratability? >> >>Particulates aren't "climate predictions." They are soot that is real, >>can be measured, causes health problems, and melts ice. And could be >>reduced a lot, soon, if diesels, coal fired power plants, and things >>like aluminum smelters were cleaned up. >> >>John >> >Do you ever answer a question straight? The climate predictions were >in the link, a little above, that you provided. And they are the >supposed motivators for the recommended action. Maybe you are just a >knee-jerk liberal. Hey, inhale all the diesel fumes you like. Enjoy. John
From: Richard Henry on 31 Jul 2010 14:37 On Jul 31, 10:05 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)On- My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:52:24 -0700, > > > > "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:08:00 -0700, John Larkin > ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > > >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:00:52 -0700, > >>"JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:01:24 -0500, John Fields > >>><jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > > >>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:06:50 -0700, John Larkin > >>>><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > > >>>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), George Herold > >>>>><gher...(a)teachspin.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>(I'm just tired of the snipping back and forth... I should have just > >>>>>>kept my mouth shut and moved on.) > > >>>>>>George H. > > >>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>>>>Just try injecting technical riffs - braininstorming in public - into > >>>>>the hen-clucking OT personal rants. Not only does that steer us back > >>>>>on topic, it annoys the hell out of some people who really deserve > >>>>>being annoyed. > > >>>>--- > >>>>Like this one?: > > >>>>I am so sick of grey, white, black, silver, and repulsive > >>>>pearl-colored cars. You can drive for blocks around here and see > >>>>nothing but asphalt-colored cars. When I saw that true-red Audi for > >>>>sale, I had to have it. > > >>>>That Mercedes is a decent shade of red, sort of arterial blood color. > >>>>I've started to see a few new cars on the street that are actual > >>>>colors, not just midnight blue or mud red, but *colors*. Maybe things > >>>>are turning around. > > >>>>Those Germans sure know how to make cars. 0-60 in 3.7 seconds isn't > >>>>bad at all. That's 0.75 Gs, if I did the math right. > > >>>>John > > >>>>or this one?: > > >>>>Nobody is going to do anything serious about CO2. And maybe we > >>>>shouldn't anyhow. > > >>>>This is serious > > >>>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/28/MN5H1EK6B... > > >>>>and we *can* do something about it. > > >>>>John > > >>>Given the well known issues with getting realistic data from SPICE > >>>which has well calibrated and tested models, do you really want to > >>>trust anybody making climate predictions with models whose very theory > >>>is suspect as well? Particularly when there is no track record of > >>>model testability or calibratability? > > >>Particulates aren't "climate predictions." They are soot that is real, > >>can be measured, causes health problems, and melts ice. And could be > >>reduced a lot, soon, if diesels, coal fired power plants, and things > >>like aluminum smelters were cleaned up. > > >>John > > >Do you ever answer a question straight? The climate predictions were > >in the link, a little above, that you provided. And they are the > >supposed motivators for the recommended action. Maybe you are just a > >knee-jerk liberal. > > Possibly. I suspect Asperger's or manic-depressive... something > requiring constantly being at the center of attention. Need to be constantly at the center of attention is the opposite of Asperger's.
From: krw on 31 Jul 2010 14:40
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:37:11 -0700 (PDT), Richard Henry <pomerado(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 31, 10:05�am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)On- >My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:52:24 -0700, >> >> >> >> "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:08:00 -0700, John Larkin >> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:00:52 -0700, >> >>"JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:01:24 -0500, John Fields >> >>><jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:06:50 -0700, John Larkin >> >>>><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), George Herold >> >>>>><gher...(a)teachspin.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>(I'm just tired of the snipping back and forth... I should have just >> >>>>>>kept my mouth shut and moved on.) >> >> >>>>>>George H. >> >> >>>>>>> John- Hide quoted text - >> >> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >> >>>>>Just try injecting technical riffs - braininstorming in public - into >> >>>>>the hen-clucking OT personal rants. Not only does that steer us back >> >>>>>on topic, it annoys the hell out of some people who really deserve >> >>>>>being annoyed. >> >> >>>>--- >> >>>>Like this one?: >> >> >>>>I am so sick of grey, white, black, silver, and repulsive >> >>>>pearl-colored cars. You can drive for blocks around here and see >> >>>>nothing but asphalt-colored cars. When I saw that true-red Audi for >> >>>>sale, I had to have it. >> >> >>>>That Mercedes is a decent shade of red, sort of arterial blood color. >> >>>>I've started to see a few new cars on the street that are actual >> >>>>colors, not just midnight blue or mud red, but *colors*. Maybe things >> >>>>are turning around. >> >> >>>>Those Germans sure know how to make cars. 0-60 in 3.7 seconds isn't >> >>>>bad at all. That's 0.75 Gs, if I did the math right. >> >> >>>>John >> >> >>>>or this one?: >> >> >>>>Nobody is going to do anything serious about CO2. And maybe we >> >>>>shouldn't anyhow. >> >> >>>>This is serious >> >> >>>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/28/MN5H1EK6B... >> >> >>>>and we *can* do something about it. >> >> >>>>John >> >> >>>Given the well known issues with getting realistic data from SPICE >> >>>which has well calibrated and tested models, do you really want to >> >>>trust anybody making climate predictions with models whose very theory >> >>>is suspect as well? �Particularly when there is no track record of >> >>>model testability or calibratability? >> >> >>Particulates aren't "climate predictions." They are soot that is real, >> >>can be measured, causes health problems, and melts ice. And could be >> >>reduced a lot, soon, if diesels, coal fired power plants, and things >> >>like aluminum smelters were cleaned up. >> >> >>John >> >> >Do you ever answer a question straight? �The climate predictions were >> >in the link, a little above, that you provided. �And they are the >> >supposed motivators for the recommended action. �Maybe you are just a >> >knee-jerk liberal. >> >> Possibly. I suspect Asperger's or manic-depressive... something >> requiring constantly being at the center of attention. > >Need to be constantly at the center of attention is the opposite of >Asperger's. Explain GreenXenon. |