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From: Michael A. Terrell on 12 Mar 2010 20:22 a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: > > Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental > property of it. > Of course, limited by its life span. > See: Newton's first. > "Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that > state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. " > Things move forever as long as they're not disturbed. That's why Nymnuts will never leave. He's always 'disturbed'. -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
From: Bill Beaty on 13 Mar 2010 21:35 On Mar 11, 5:52 pm, a7yvm109gf...(a)netzero.com wrote: ] Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental You're talking about 'perpetual drifting.' The english word "Perpetual Motion" is actually defined more like "perpetual work," or "perpetual motion against friction," or "perpetual acceleration." A solar system or a frictionless flywheel is *not* an example of a PM device, if we're using the usual meaning of "PM." When you build a successful PM machine, everyone knows about it. They notice the large new crater in your neighborhood where your garage once stood. (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb a eskimocom http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
From: Sam Wormley on 13 Mar 2010 23:02 On 3/11/10 7:52 PM, a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: > Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental > property of it. > Of course, limited by its life span. > See: Newton's first. > "Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that > state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. " > Things move forever as long as they're not disturbed. > > I guess that means perpetual motion is quite boring. The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes on forever. However, the term more commonly refers to any device or system that perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time. The total momentum-energy of the universe is fixed and constant.
From: The Great Attractor on 13 Mar 2010 23:52 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:02:50 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 3/11/10 7:52 PM, a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >> Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental >> property of it. >> Of course, limited by its life span. >> See: Newton's first. >> "Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that >> state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. " >> Things move forever as long as they're not disturbed. >> >> I guess that means perpetual motion is quite boring. > >The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes >on forever. However, the term more commonly refers to any device or >system that perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it >consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time. > >The total momentum-energy of the universe is fixed and constant. Yes... fixed at the value of ALL... and NOTHING. If our "Universe" is a mere "bubble" inside a larger Superverse, then your claim needs re-evaluation.
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 00:11
On 14/03/2010 04:52, The Great Attractor wrote: > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:02:50 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 3/11/10 7:52 PM, a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>> Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental >>> property of it. >>> Of course, limited by its life span. >>> See: Newton's first. >>> "Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that >>> state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. " >>> Things move forever as long as they're not disturbed. >>> >>> I guess that means perpetual motion is quite boring. >> >> The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes >> on forever. However, the term more commonly refers to any device or >> system that perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it >> consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time. >> >> The total momentum-energy of the universe is fixed and constant. > > > Yes... fixed at the value of ALL... and NOTHING. > > If our "Universe" is a mere "bubble" inside a larger Superverse, then > your claim needs re-evaluation. Only if shown to be untrue by experiment. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show |