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From: Sam Wormley on 14 Mar 2010 14:15 On 3/13/10 10:52 PM, The Great Attractor wrote: > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:02:50 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 3/11/10 7:52 PM, a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>> Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental >>> property of it. >>> Of course, limited by its life span. >>> See: Newton's first. >>> "Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that >>> state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. " >>> Things move forever as long as they're not disturbed. >>> >>> I guess that means perpetual motion is quite boring. >> >> The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes >> on forever. However, the term more commonly refers to any device or >> system that perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it >> consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time. >> >> The total momentum-energy of the universe is fixed and constant. > > > Yes... fixed at the value of ALL... and NOTHING. > > If our "Universe" is a mere "bubble" inside a larger Superverse, then > your claim needs re-evaluation. Maybe not.
From: Sue... on 14 Mar 2010 14:36 On Mar 11, 5:09 pm, Bill Beaty <bi...(a)eskimo.com> wrote: [...] Hardly worth the design time. Simply sprinkle some saw dust and syrup on a real machine 'till it stops working. Then you will have a fake machine. Sue...
From: The Great Attractor on 14 Mar 2010 14:56 On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:15:07 -0500, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 3/13/10 10:52 PM, The Great Attractor wrote: >> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:02:50 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 3/11/10 7:52 PM, a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote: >>>> Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental >>>> property of it. >>>> Of course, limited by its life span. >>>> See: Newton's first. >>>> "Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that >>>> state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. " >>>> Things move forever as long as they're not disturbed. >>>> >>>> I guess that means perpetual motion is quite boring. >>> >>> The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes >>> on forever. However, the term more commonly refers to any device or >>> system that perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it >>> consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time. >>> >>> The total momentum-energy of the universe is fixed and constant. >> >> >> Yes... fixed at the value of ALL... and NOTHING. >> >> If our "Universe" is a mere "bubble" inside a larger Superverse, then >> your claim needs re-evaluation. > > Maybe not. > In the grand, quantum scheme of things, I guess perhaps not.
From: Bill Beaty on 15 Mar 2010 04:27 On Mar 14, 11:36 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Hardly worth the design time. It's the Randi technique: a good fake can lead many onlookers to think more critically, and might even cause some of the believers to think twice. > Simply sprinkle some saw dust > and syrup on a real machine 'till it stops working. Then > you will have a fake machine. So you didn't like the famous fake PM machines built by David Jones, "Daedalus," columnist in Nature? PM Machines as Art http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/art.htm His were straightforward: battery banks, plus very well hidden electrical connections. Much cooler would be to intercept ambient RF from distant AM stations, 60Hz b-fields, or perhaps harness the thermal IR of warm human passersby. Or build something which turns for weeks, while slowly destroying a permanent magnet. ((((((((((((((((((((((( ( ( (o) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty Research Engineer beaty a chem washington edu UW Chem Dept, Bagley Hall RM74 billb a eskimo com Box 351700, Seattle, WA 98195-1700 ph206-762-3818 http://staff.washington.edu/wbeaty/
From: bert on 15 Mar 2010 09:11
On Mar 14, 12:02 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/11/10 7:52 PM, a7yvm109gf...(a)netzero.com wrote: > > > Perpetual motion is built into the universe, it's a fundamental > > property of it. > > Of course, limited by its life span. > > See: Newton's first. > > "Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that > > state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. " > > Things move forever as long as they're not disturbed. > > > I guess that means perpetual motion is quite boring. > > The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes > on forever. However, the term more commonly refers to any device or > system that perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it > consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time. > > The total momentum-energy of the universe is fixed and constant. Sam My lastest idea is to marry a wind turbine to large flywheel. Its machanical energy all the way down TreBert |