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From: BURT on 31 May 2010 15:02 On May 31, 11:59 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 31, 1:51 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 31, 11:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 30, 1:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 27, 12:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 27, 3:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:01 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 12:54, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:06 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail..com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 10:57, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Snip continuous and repetitive mpc755 nonsense!!! > > > > > > > > > > The double-slit experiment demonstrates the inseparability of the wave > > > > > > > > > and particle behavior of light and other quantum particles. A laser > > > > > > > > > illuminates a thin plate with two parallel slits cut in it, and the > > > > > > > > > light passing through the slits strikes a screen behind them. The wave > > > > > > > > > nature of light causes the light waves passing through both slits to > > > > > > > > > interfere, creating an interference pattern of bright and dark bands > > > > > > > > > on the screen. However, at the screen, the light is always found to be > > > > > > > > > absorbed as though it were made of discrete particles, called photons. > > > > > > > > > > According to classical particle physics the brightness at any point > > > > > > > > > should be the sum of the brightness when the right slit is blocked and > > > > > > > > > the brightness when the left slit is blocked. However, it is found in > > > > > > > > > experiments that unblocking both slits makes some points on the screen > > > > > > > > > brighter, and other points darker. This can only be explained by the > > > > > > > > > alternately additive and subtractive interference of waves, not the > > > > > > > > > exclusively additive nature of particles, so we know that light must > > > > > > > > > have some particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > Any modification of the apparatus that can determine which slit a > > > > > > > > > photon passes through destroys the interference pattern, illustrating > > > > > > > > > the complementarity principle; that the light can demonstrate both > > > > > > > > > particle and wave characteristics, but not both at the same time. > > > > > > > > > > The double slit experiment can also be performed (using different > > > > > > > > > apparatus) with particles of matter such as electrons with the same > > > > > > > > > results, demonstrating that they also show particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > This is what Nature tells us. QM is the model which allows us to > > > > > > > > > explain what we observe and also to predict what would be observed in > > > > > > > > > a different situation. > > > > > > > > > All modern electronics is based on this model, which demonstrates its > > > > > > > > > usefulness and correctness. > > > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios > > > > > > > > > Everything you say above is correct. Especially the part where you > > > > > > > > state, "The wave nature of light causes the light waves passing > > > > > > > > through both slits to interfere". > > > > > > > > > Where you fail is when you do not make a similar statement for the > > > > > > > > particle: > > > > > > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to pass through > > > > > > > > a single slit. > > > > > > > > Learn how to read mpcboy!!!! > > > > > > > > Fire electrons through a double slit towards a phosphorous screen. > > > > > > > What Nature tells us is that the screen will show, again, an > > > > > > > interference pattern forms. > > > > > > > > So light has properties both of a wave and a particle. It shows > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > So an electron has properties both of a particle and a wave. It shows > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > QM is the model which allows us to explain what we observe and also to > > > > > > > predict what would be observed in a different situation. > > > > > > > > QM is one of the most successful models in its predictive power. > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Shine light on electrons and their wave function collapses at the two > > > > > > slits. The wave goes back into the particle and there is no > > > > > > interference. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > The wave function does not collapse. There is no such thing as a wave > > > > > function. Not in nature anyways. > > > > > > The coherence of the wave associated with the electron is destroyed > > > > > when the electron is detected. > > > > > > A moving electron has an associated wave. > > > > > A moving electron has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > The electron particle occupies a very small region of the associated > > > > > wave and travels a single path. The associated wave exits the slits > > > > > and creates interference which alters the direction the particle > > > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference..- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > The quantum wave electron collapses when light touches it at the two > > > > slits. Therefore you get the particle pattern. Take away light and it > > > > goes back to a wave pattern. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > The wave nature of light causes the light wave to pass pass through > > > both slits to interfere. > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to enter and > > > exit a single slit. > > > > In a double slit experiment the wave enters and exits both slits and > > > the 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The wave exits the > > > slits and creates interference which alters the direction the > > > particle > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > You mean light bends around the partition inbetween the holes. But you > > do not need a particle for this. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > The photon wave enters and exits both slits. Just like any wave in a > double slit experiment would. > > The photon particle enters and exits a single slit. Just like any > particle which has an associated wave would. > > The photon particle occupies a very small region of the photon wave. > > The photon wave travels available paths. > > The photon particle travels a single path.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - A wave is necessary for interference not a particle.
From: mpc755 on 31 May 2010 15:06 On May 31, 2:02 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 31, 11:59 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 31, 1:51 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 31, 11:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 30, 1:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 27, 12:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 27, 3:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:01 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 12:54, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:06 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 10:57, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Snip continuous and repetitive mpc755 nonsense!!! > > > > > > > > > > > The double-slit experiment demonstrates the inseparability of the wave > > > > > > > > > > and particle behavior of light and other quantum particles. A laser > > > > > > > > > > illuminates a thin plate with two parallel slits cut in it, and the > > > > > > > > > > light passing through the slits strikes a screen behind them. The wave > > > > > > > > > > nature of light causes the light waves passing through both slits to > > > > > > > > > > interfere, creating an interference pattern of bright and dark bands > > > > > > > > > > on the screen. However, at the screen, the light is always found to be > > > > > > > > > > absorbed as though it were made of discrete particles, called photons. > > > > > > > > > > > According to classical particle physics the brightness at any point > > > > > > > > > > should be the sum of the brightness when the right slit is blocked and > > > > > > > > > > the brightness when the left slit is blocked. However, it is found in > > > > > > > > > > experiments that unblocking both slits makes some points on the screen > > > > > > > > > > brighter, and other points darker. This can only be explained by the > > > > > > > > > > alternately additive and subtractive interference of waves, not the > > > > > > > > > > exclusively additive nature of particles, so we know that light must > > > > > > > > > > have some particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > > Any modification of the apparatus that can determine which slit a > > > > > > > > > > photon passes through destroys the interference pattern, illustrating > > > > > > > > > > the complementarity principle; that the light can demonstrate both > > > > > > > > > > particle and wave characteristics, but not both at the same time. > > > > > > > > > > > The double slit experiment can also be performed (using different > > > > > > > > > > apparatus) with particles of matter such as electrons with the same > > > > > > > > > > results, demonstrating that they also show particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > > This is what Nature tells us. QM is the model which allows us to > > > > > > > > > > explain what we observe and also to predict what would be observed in > > > > > > > > > > a different situation. > > > > > > > > > > All modern electronics is based on this model, which demonstrates its > > > > > > > > > > usefulness and correctness. > > > > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios > > > > > > > > > > Everything you say above is correct. Especially the part where you > > > > > > > > > state, "The wave nature of light causes the light waves passing > > > > > > > > > through both slits to interfere". > > > > > > > > > > Where you fail is when you do not make a similar statement for the > > > > > > > > > particle: > > > > > > > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to pass through > > > > > > > > > a single slit. > > > > > > > > > Learn how to read mpcboy!!!! > > > > > > > > > Fire electrons through a double slit towards a phosphorous screen. > > > > > > > > What Nature tells us is that the screen will show, again, an > > > > > > > > interference pattern forms. > > > > > > > > > So light has properties both of a wave and a particle. It shows > > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > So an electron has properties both of a particle and a wave.. It shows > > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > QM is the model which allows us to explain what we observe and also to > > > > > > > > predict what would be observed in a different situation. > > > > > > > > > QM is one of the most successful models in its predictive power. > > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > Shine light on electrons and their wave function collapses at the two > > > > > > > slits. The wave goes back into the particle and there is no > > > > > > > interference. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > The wave function does not collapse. There is no such thing as a wave > > > > > > function. Not in nature anyways. > > > > > > > The coherence of the wave associated with the electron is destroyed > > > > > > when the electron is detected. > > > > > > > A moving electron has an associated wave. > > > > > > A moving electron has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > > The electron particle occupies a very small region of the associated > > > > > > wave and travels a single path. The associated wave exits the slits > > > > > > and creates interference which alters the direction the particle > > > > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > The quantum wave electron collapses when light touches it at the two > > > > > slits. Therefore you get the particle pattern. Take away light and it > > > > > goes back to a wave pattern. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > The wave nature of light causes the light wave to pass pass through > > > > both slits to interfere. > > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to enter and > > > > exit a single slit. > > > > > In a double slit experiment the wave enters and exits both slits and > > > > the 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The wave exits the > > > > slits and creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > particle > > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > You mean light bends around the partition inbetween the holes. But you > > > do not need a particle for this. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > The photon wave enters and exits both slits. Just like any wave in a > > double slit experiment would. > > > The photon particle enters and exits a single slit. Just like any > > particle which has an associated wave would. > > > The photon particle occupies a very small region of the photon wave. > > > The photon wave travels available paths. > > > The photon particle travels a single path.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > A wave is necessary for interference not a particle. What is detected at the screen is not a wave. What is detected at the screen is a particle. It takes many, many photons to create the interference pattern. The interference pattern is not created like a wave washing ashore. The interference pattern created by light waves in a double slit experiment is built by individual detections. The individual detections are the photon particle. The photon particle occupies a very small region of the photon wave. The photon particle travels a single path.
From: BURT on 31 May 2010 18:16 On May 31, 12:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 31, 2:02 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 31, 11:59 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 31, 1:51 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 31, 11:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 30, 1:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 27, 3:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:01 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail..com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 12:54, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:06 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 10:57, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Snip continuous and repetitive mpc755 nonsense!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > The double-slit experiment demonstrates the inseparability of the wave > > > > > > > > > > > and particle behavior of light and other quantum particles. A laser > > > > > > > > > > > illuminates a thin plate with two parallel slits cut in it, and the > > > > > > > > > > > light passing through the slits strikes a screen behind them. The wave > > > > > > > > > > > nature of light causes the light waves passing through both slits to > > > > > > > > > > > interfere, creating an interference pattern of bright and dark bands > > > > > > > > > > > on the screen. However, at the screen, the light is always found to be > > > > > > > > > > > absorbed as though it were made of discrete particles, called photons. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to classical particle physics the brightness at any point > > > > > > > > > > > should be the sum of the brightness when the right slit is blocked and > > > > > > > > > > > the brightness when the left slit is blocked. However, it is found in > > > > > > > > > > > experiments that unblocking both slits makes some points on the screen > > > > > > > > > > > brighter, and other points darker. This can only be explained by the > > > > > > > > > > > alternately additive and subtractive interference of waves, not the > > > > > > > > > > > exclusively additive nature of particles, so we know that light must > > > > > > > > > > > have some particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any modification of the apparatus that can determine which slit a > > > > > > > > > > > photon passes through destroys the interference pattern, illustrating > > > > > > > > > > > the complementarity principle; that the light can demonstrate both > > > > > > > > > > > particle and wave characteristics, but not both at the same time. > > > > > > > > > > > > The double slit experiment can also be performed (using different > > > > > > > > > > > apparatus) with particles of matter such as electrons with the same > > > > > > > > > > > results, demonstrating that they also show particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what Nature tells us. QM is the model which allows us to > > > > > > > > > > > explain what we observe and also to predict what would be observed in > > > > > > > > > > > a different situation. > > > > > > > > > > > All modern electronics is based on this model, which demonstrates its > > > > > > > > > > > usefulness and correctness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios > > > > > > > > > > > Everything you say above is correct. Especially the part where you > > > > > > > > > > state, "The wave nature of light causes the light waves passing > > > > > > > > > > through both slits to interfere". > > > > > > > > > > > Where you fail is when you do not make a similar statement for the > > > > > > > > > > particle: > > > > > > > > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to pass through > > > > > > > > > > a single slit. > > > > > > > > > > Learn how to read mpcboy!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Fire electrons through a double slit towards a phosphorous screen. > > > > > > > > > What Nature tells us is that the screen will show, again, an > > > > > > > > > interference pattern forms. > > > > > > > > > > So light has properties both of a wave and a particle. It shows > > > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > So an electron has properties both of a particle and a wave. It shows > > > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > QM is the model which allows us to explain what we observe and also to > > > > > > > > > predict what would be observed in a different situation. > > > > > > > > > > QM is one of the most successful models in its predictive power. > > > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > Shine light on electrons and their wave function collapses at the two > > > > > > > > slits. The wave goes back into the particle and there is no > > > > > > > > interference. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > The wave function does not collapse. There is no such thing as a wave > > > > > > > function. Not in nature anyways. > > > > > > > > The coherence of the wave associated with the electron is destroyed > > > > > > > when the electron is detected. > > > > > > > > A moving electron has an associated wave. > > > > > > > A moving electron has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > The electron particle occupies a very small region of the associated > > > > > > > wave and travels a single path. The associated wave exits the slits > > > > > > > and creates interference which alters the direction the particle > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > The quantum wave electron collapses when light touches it at the two > > > > > > slits. Therefore you get the particle pattern. Take away light and it > > > > > > goes back to a wave pattern. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > The wave nature of light causes the light wave to pass pass through > > > > > both slits to interfere. > > > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to enter and > > > > > exit a single slit. > > > > > > In a double slit experiment the wave enters and exits both slits and > > > > > the 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The wave exits the > > > > > slits and creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > > particle > > > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference..- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > You mean light bends around the partition inbetween the holes. But you > > > > do not need a particle for this. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > The photon wave enters and exits both slits. Just like any wave in a > > > double slit experiment would. > > > > The photon particle enters and exits a single slit. Just like any > > > particle which has an associated wave would. > > > > The photon particle occupies a very small region of the photon wave. > > > > The photon wave travels available paths. > > > > The photon particle travels a single path.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > A wave is necessary for interference not a particle. > > What is detected at the screen is not a wave. No. The screen is absorbing waves. A light wave oscillates into the point particle giving it its electric energy. A particle nature is not needed for the absorption of light. Mitch Raemsch > What is detected at the > screen is a particle. It takes many, many photons to create the > interference pattern. The interference pattern is not created like a > wave washing ashore. The interference pattern created by light waves > in a double slit experiment is built by individual detections. The > individual detections are the photon particle. The photon particle > occupies a very small region of the photon wave. The photon particle > travels a single path.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 2 Jun 2010 03:31
On May 31, 6:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 31, 12:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 31, 2:02 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 31, 11:59 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 31, 1:51 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 31, 11:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 30, 1:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 3:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:01 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 12:54, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 12:06 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 mayo, 10:57, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Snip continuous and repetitive mpc755 nonsense!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > The double-slit experiment demonstrates the inseparability of the wave > > > > > > > > > > > > and particle behavior of light and other quantum particles. A laser > > > > > > > > > > > > illuminates a thin plate with two parallel slits cut in it, and the > > > > > > > > > > > > light passing through the slits strikes a screen behind them. The wave > > > > > > > > > > > > nature of light causes the light waves passing through both slits to > > > > > > > > > > > > interfere, creating an interference pattern of bright and dark bands > > > > > > > > > > > > on the screen. However, at the screen, the light is always found to be > > > > > > > > > > > > absorbed as though it were made of discrete particles, called photons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to classical particle physics the brightness at any point > > > > > > > > > > > > should be the sum of the brightness when the right slit is blocked and > > > > > > > > > > > > the brightness when the left slit is blocked. However, it is found in > > > > > > > > > > > > experiments that unblocking both slits makes some points on the screen > > > > > > > > > > > > brighter, and other points darker. This can only be explained by the > > > > > > > > > > > > alternately additive and subtractive interference of waves, not the > > > > > > > > > > > > exclusively additive nature of particles, so we know that light must > > > > > > > > > > > > have some particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any modification of the apparatus that can determine which slit a > > > > > > > > > > > > photon passes through destroys the interference pattern, illustrating > > > > > > > > > > > > the complementarity principle; that the light can demonstrate both > > > > > > > > > > > > particle and wave characteristics, but not both at the same time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The double slit experiment can also be performed (using different > > > > > > > > > > > > apparatus) with particles of matter such as electrons with the same > > > > > > > > > > > > results, demonstrating that they also show particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what Nature tells us. QM is the model which allows us to > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what we observe and also to predict what would be observed in > > > > > > > > > > > > a different situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > All modern electronics is based on this model, which demonstrates its > > > > > > > > > > > > usefulness and correctness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything you say above is correct. Especially the part where you > > > > > > > > > > > state, "The wave nature of light causes the light waves passing > > > > > > > > > > > through both slits to interfere". > > > > > > > > > > > > Where you fail is when you do not make a similar statement for the > > > > > > > > > > > particle: > > > > > > > > > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to pass through > > > > > > > > > > > a single slit. > > > > > > > > > > > Learn how to read mpcboy!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > Fire electrons through a double slit towards a phosphorous screen. > > > > > > > > > > What Nature tells us is that the screen will show, again, an > > > > > > > > > > interference pattern forms. > > > > > > > > > > > So light has properties both of a wave and a particle. It shows > > > > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > So an electron has properties both of a particle and a wave. It shows > > > > > > > > > > particle-wave duality. > > > > > > > > > > > QM is the model which allows us to explain what we observe and also to > > > > > > > > > > predict what would be observed in a different situation.. > > > > > > > > > > > QM is one of the most successful models in its predictive power. > > > > > > > > > > > Miguel Rios- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > Shine light on electrons and their wave function collapses at the two > > > > > > > > > slits. The wave goes back into the particle and there is no > > > > > > > > > interference. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > The wave function does not collapse. There is no such thing as a wave > > > > > > > > function. Not in nature anyways. > > > > > > > > > The coherence of the wave associated with the electron is destroyed > > > > > > > > when the electron is detected. > > > > > > > > > A moving electron has an associated wave. > > > > > > > > A moving electron has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > The electron particle occupies a very small region of the associated > > > > > > > > wave and travels a single path. The associated wave exits the slits > > > > > > > > and creates interference which alters the direction the particle > > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > The quantum wave electron collapses when light touches it at the two > > > > > > > slits. Therefore you get the particle pattern. Take away light and it > > > > > > > goes back to a wave pattern. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > The wave nature of light causes the light wave to pass pass through > > > > > > both slits to interfere. > > > > > > > The particle nature of light causes the light particle to enter and > > > > > > exit a single slit. > > > > > > > In a double slit experiment the wave enters and exits both slits and > > > > > > the 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The wave exits the > > > > > > slits and creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > > > particle > > > > > > travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > You mean light bends around the partition inbetween the holes. But you > > > > > do not need a particle for this. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > The photon wave enters and exits both slits. Just like any wave in a > > > > double slit experiment would. > > > > > The photon particle enters and exits a single slit. Just like any > > > > particle which has an associated wave would. > > > > > The photon particle occupies a very small region of the photon wave.. > > > > > The photon wave travels available paths. > > > > > The photon particle travels a single path.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > A wave is necessary for interference not a particle. > > > What is detected at the screen is not a wave. > > No. The screen is absorbing waves. A light wave oscillates into the > point particle giving it its electric energy. > > A particle nature is not needed for the absorption of light. > > Mitch Raemsch > Do you even see the contradiction in your two statements. You say, "A light wave oscillates into the point particle". And then you say, "A particle nature is not needed". You just needed the particle nature for the light wave to oscillate into the point particle. The light wave oscillating into the point particle is the photon particle. |