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From: BURT on 6 Feb 2010 17:41 On Feb 6, 2:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 6, 12:06 pm, Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 1:57 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > "Sanny" <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:a1c75804-b3d2-4784-84f8-c91feea8fba5(a)k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com.... > > > > > Until now I used to agree that Speed of light is constant = "C" As it > > > > has been seen by experiments. > > > > That is in a perfect vacuum. > > > > Light can be slowed to almost a stop. > > > > As for the rest of your post, remember the relativistic > > > properties of anything aproaching C. That's why the > > > closing speed of 2 photons in a vacuum is still C. > > > Oh great! Now the gang's all here! With HVAC showing up along with > > Sanny, "Mitch Raemsch" (winner of two Nobel prizes) and the rest we > > now have all the kooks in one spot ready to come to an understanding > > of... nothing! > > > Sorry guys, light is NOT an electromagnetic wave. Attempting to use > > that model as some ultimate explanation of the assumptions of SR is > > only chasing your own tail. Fun, but no results. > > > Sanny IS asking the right question however: If light were a wave in a > > medium, then HOW can we explain all the quantum effects observed in > > modern physics? In other words how can both assumptions somehow be > > compatible? > > Is not the shortest distance what motion path that gravity makes for > you? Ellsspes have to be shortest paths for minimum action. Motion > parabolas in gravity are also shortest paths in geometry that are not > orbitals. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Ellipses swivel from the fall short of time rate motion metric contracting because of slower time rate nearer the Sun. Mitch Raemsch
From: Tom Roberts on 6 Feb 2010 18:00 Sanny wrote: > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > orthogonal. > But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger > than the wavelength. What is waving is not the path of the light, but rather the fields. That is, the word "wave" is really a PUN or a metaphor, and does not literally mean a wiggly path as for a waving rope. > Light is actually photons. and photons follow a sinusoidally path. Actually, photons don't follow ANY path. > Say photon moving from one wavelength to other [...] Photons don't change wavelength. They may not have a definite wavelength, but they don't change. > Same with electrons. Electrons will jump higher when higher frequency. Electrons don't "jump". You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before attempting to write about it. Tom Roberts
From: Androcles on 6 Feb 2010 18:45 "Tom Roberts" <tjroberts137(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:qLmdnQCYVcgfafDW4p2dnAA(a)giganews.com... > Sanny wrote: >> 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields >> orthogonal. >> But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger >> than the wavelength. > > What is waving is not the path of the light, but rather the fields. That > is, the word "wave" is really a PUN or a metaphor, and does not literally > mean a wiggly path as for a waving rope. > > >> Light is actually photons. and photons follow a sinusoidally path. > > Actually, photons don't follow ANY path. Actually, in fact, you are a stupid lying cretin, in fact, actually.
From: BradGuth on 6 Feb 2010 18:48 On Feb 6, 3:00 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Sanny wrote: > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > > orthogonal. > > But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger > > than the wavelength. > > What is waving is not the path of the light, but rather the fields. That is, the > word "wave" is really a PUN or a metaphor, and does not literally mean a wiggly > path as for a waving rope. > > > Light is actually photons. and photons follow a sinusoidally path. > > Actually, photons don't follow ANY path. True, as they seems to flow or follow in all possible directions at the same time from a given point source. > > > Say photon moving from one wavelength to other [...] > > Photons don't change wavelength. They may not have a definite wavelength, but > they don't change. As far as we know, quantum FM photons don't exist, at least it's not in their nature. > > > Same with electrons. Electrons will jump higher when higher frequency. > > Electrons don't "jump". As far as you know. Are you suggesting that at Selene L1 of perhaps 3e-21 bar, that a trillion volt charged electron will not jump from atom to atom? > > You REALLY need to learn something about the subject before attempting to write > about it. > > Tom Roberts Sanny always needs a lot of help, but then so do I. In this entire expanding universe, how many all-inclusive photons per atom do we have by now? ~ BG
From: bigfletch8 on 6 Feb 2010 21:53
On Feb 7, 1:08 am, mpalenik <markpale...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 6, 12:06 pm, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Until now I used to agree that Speed of light is constant = "C" As it > > has been seen by experiments. > > > But a few minutes back I got an idea. > > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > > orthogonal. > > > Since a Sine wave is a curve. > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > When it is said that light is a wave, it doesn't mean that it travel > along a sinusoidal path. It means that the field strength varies > sinusoidally, meaning the electric and magnetic fields get stronger > and weaker over space. It has nothing to do with the path that light > follows (which is a straight line). If space is curved, how come a 'straight line'? I undersatnd the theory of the eratic path of an electron, is to do with the antimatter 'getting in the way'. BOfL |