From: BradGuth on
On Feb 7, 6:10 am, "bigflet...(a)gmail.com" <bigflet...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 7, 9:38 pm, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 5:39 am, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote:
>
> > > Sanny wrote:
> > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes
> > > > longer if you go up and down in curves.
>
> > > Wrong.
>
> > > Buy a pizza.  Eat one slice.  Now join the pizza edged made by
> > > removing that slice.  You end up with a bowl.  Pick two
> > > points on the edge of the bowl.  Find the "shortest" distance
> > > between those two points.  You may not fly.
>
> > > Now find a globe of the world.  What is the "shortest"
> > > distance between NYC and Tokyo?
>
> > > /BAH
>
> > That's silly, because you'd obviously fly straight through the Earth
> > in order to get to wherever. (just kidding)   I mean, why bother going
> > around?
>
> > Photons always have to go around atoms.   The fewer the atoms the
> > better.
>
> > However, what happens when there are no atoms (say less than 1/km3)?
>
> > How does the photon migrate from its point-source?
>
> >  ~ BG
>
> Randomly, explained by the postulation of anti matter.
>
> BOfL

Perhaps not so randomly, because on the observation sphere that's 14
billion light years away from the given original point-source of those
photons, there's still a detectable photon for each and every mm2/sec
(14e9 ly r = 2.204e59 mm2).

2.2e59 photons/sec is still impressive, especially considering that
perhaps only 0.1% ever manage to get that far without their being
blocked, diverted or converted.

From a given galaxy that can be detected at 14e9 light years we'd need
at least a point source of 2.2e62 photons/sec in order to detect each
monochromatic photon/mm2/sec at that distance, and then the all-
inclusive spectrum of such photons goes from gravity to Planck that'll
also show up in each and every one of those mm2 on the surface of that
same sphere.

~ BG
From: Sanny on
> Ask your computer this;  In this entire expanding universe, how many
> all-inclusive photons (gravity to Planck) per atom do we have by now?

infinite, if infinite exists.

Bye
Sanny

Chat with Computer: http://www.GetClub.com/ Version 2.0
From: Shrikeback on
On Feb 7, 6:00 am, "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> "bert" <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e7e363d3-eaa3-446a-8cd6-656064a59659(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>
> >To Ya All Photons never bounce or change their speed. TreBert
>
> It's truly amazing that one person can so consistently wrong.
>
> NONE of the light you see is traveling at C.
> Our atmosphere slows it.

But that is just the phase velocity.
From: Shrikeback on
On Feb 6, 9:17 am, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields
> > > orthogonal.
>
> > > Since a Sine wave is a curve.
>
> > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes
> > > longer if you go up and down in curves.
>
> ===
>
> > When it is said that light is a wave, it doesn't mean that it travel
> > along a sinusoidal path.  It means that the field strength varies
> > sinusoidally, meaning the electric and magnetic fields get stronger
> > and weaker over space.  It has nothing to do with the path that light
> > follows (which is a straight line).
>
> Light is actually photons. and photons follow a sinusoidally path. So
> when we enlarge the picture
>
> Say photon moving from one wavelength to other it is following a
> curve. Higher the frequency the higher junps the photon will make.

You completely ignored what he wrote.
From: BradGuth on
On Feb 7, 8:55 am, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Ask your computer this;  In this entire expanding universe, how many
> > all-inclusive photons (gravity to Planck) per atom do we have by now?
>
> infinite, if infinite exists.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
> Chat with Computer:http://www.GetClub.com/Version 2.0

I like to suggest 1e100 photons/atom currently exist, though it could
certainly be more.

~ BG