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From: TJ on 26 Mar 2010 07:48 On 03/26/2010 06:00 AM, Harald Meyer wrote: > The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >>>>> few months ago, they decided to make me prove I was human before >>>>> reporting the results of my searches. > >> You run a cheapskate solution with NAT, sharing your public address with >> others. You get a cheapskate service, and tarred with the same brush as >> they. > > This isnt being tarred with the same brush. There are too many requests coming > from the same IP address, google thinks it is a script and displays a captcha. "Tarred" is a bit harsh, but I think TNP is correct. I am the "victim" of my ISP's success. When all this started, he was bringing broadband service to an area that didn't have it, save for those few desperate enough to use satellite-based. I live in a rural area, on the edge of two landline phone districts. My ISP purchases bandwidth from Verizon FIOS and re-sells it to his customers. Consequently, to the world we are using a Verizon IP address. Since then, my landline company has started offering DSL, but the other one that starts two houses away still doesn't and won't any time soon. Too many old lines to replace all at once, I guess. But broadband is something that people have been hungry for. In the three years since he expanded to this area, his customer base has more than quadrupled. And it's still growing. Precisely the reason it's now on Google's radar. Most likely my ISP will contact Google and do whatever companies do to get recognized as legitimate. He may have already done so for all I know. Email from his domain was blacklisted by Road Runner a couple of years ago, and he took care of it in a few days. That time it was the behemoth that moved slowly - my ISP was on it as soon as he heard of the problem. But I suppose I would be better off with less of a "cheapskate" solution, and my neighbors who get their service relayed from my barn would be better off back on dial-up - still their only viable Internet service alternative to my ISP. Shall I call the guy and tell him to come rip everything out? TJ -- There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
From: Sidney Lambe on 26 Mar 2010 12:21 On comp.os.linux.misc, The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: [delete] >> I choose this way. If you think you need my approval, please >> feel free to make your own choices. I choose to use BC because it is so convenient and fast and simple. http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/42/command-line-calculator-bc/ [delete] Sid
From: The Natural Philosopher on 26 Mar 2010 12:59 TJ wrote: > On 03/26/2010 06:00 AM, Harald Meyer wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>>>>> few months ago, they decided to make me prove I was human before >>>>>> reporting the results of my searches. >> >>> You run a cheapskate solution with NAT, sharing your public address with >>> others. You get a cheapskate service, and tarred with the same brush as >>> they. >> >> This isnt being tarred with the same brush. There are too many >> requests coming >> from the same IP address, google thinks it is a script and displays a >> captcha. > > "Tarred" is a bit harsh, but I think TNP is correct. I am the "victim" > of my ISP's success. When all this started, he was bringing broadband > service to an area that didn't have it, save for those few desperate > enough to use satellite-based. I live in a rural area, on the edge of > two landline phone districts. My ISP purchases bandwidth from Verizon > FIOS and re-sells it to his customers. Consequently, to the world we are > using a Verizon IP address. > > Since then, my landline company has started offering DSL, but the other > one that starts two houses away still doesn't and won't any time soon. > Too many old lines to replace all at once, I guess. But broadband is > something that people have been hungry for. In the three years since he > expanded to this area, his customer base has more than quadrupled. And > it's still growing. Precisely the reason it's now on Google's radar. > Most likely my ISP will contact Google and do whatever companies do to > get recognized as legitimate. He may have already done so for all I > know. Email from his domain was blacklisted by Road Runner a couple of > years ago, and he took care of it in a few days. That time it was the > behemoth that moved slowly - my ISP was on it as soon as he heard of the > problem. > > But I suppose I would be better off with less of a "cheapskate" > solution, and my neighbors who get their service relayed from my barn > would be better off back on dial-up - still their only viable Internet > service alternative to my ISP. Shall I call the guy and tell him to come > rip everything out? > > TJ No get him to get some more IP addresses and do it a bit better.
From: TJ on 26 Mar 2010 14:24 On 03/26/2010 12:59 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > TJ wrote: >> But I suppose I would be better off with less of a "cheapskate" >> solution, and my neighbors who get their service relayed from my barn >> would be better off back on dial-up - still their only viable Internet >> service alternative to my ISP. Shall I call the guy and tell him to >> come rip everything out? >> >> TJ > No get him to get some more IP addresses and do it a bit better. As a non-paying customer(from his point of view), I feel I have less right to complain about how he runs his business than his paying customers do. While the deal I have is beneficial to both parties, he's not above canceling it if someone gets too greedy (again, in his eyes). He's done it at least once that I know of. He had another relay set up on the firehouse of the local volunteers. In return, he set up a hotspot at the firehouse that was accessible to any of the firemen. But that wasn't good enough for them. They wanted all firemen to get broadband access in their homes at less than half of his going rate. This would have been a losing proposition for him, so the whole deal was canceled. I prefer to maintain friendly relations. You never know when you'll need somebody to go the extra mile for you. TJ -- There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
From: AZ Nomad on 26 Mar 2010 14:58
On 26 Mar 2010 17:21:40 +0100, Sidney Lambe <sidneylambe(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >On comp.os.linux.misc, The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >[delete] >>> I choose this way. If you think you need my approval, please >>> feel free to make your own choices. >I choose to use BC because it is so convenient and fast and simple. I use dc because I prefer postfix. :-p |