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From: Susan Bradley on 11 May 2010 17:00
Leythos wrote:
> In article <54F44857-AF62-4C74-84F0-394AFB9FCB69(a)microsoft.com>, Joe2
> @discussions.microsoft.com says...
>
>> I am a one man business and I only use the software to learn and familiarize
>> my self with new products so Technet fits my requirements in that respect I
>> think. The only units that get uses a lot are several desktops.
>>
>
> Actually, if you keep it installed and are using it in your business,
> you are in violation of TechNet licensing. MAPS is the right license
> model for what you just described.
>
>
>> It is my understanding that with Technet, you get to continue using the
>> software even after you stop the service (very important to me,I don't want
>> to loose my ability to run Office for example) where as with MAPS you sre
>> supposed to to remove all installs after stopping the service. Also you get
>> one free support incident which has come in handy once or twice.
>>
>
> The part I quoted from TechNet clearly shows that it's only valid while
> the license, yearly, is paid.
>
>
>> Again feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I am wanting to make an
>> informed decision because I no longer see the need to keep both.
>>
>
> I have already quoted the TechNet licensing, it's per year and not for
> production use, so you can't continue to use it after your subscription
> expires and you can never use it on a full time basis, except for
> testing, which is not what you've described as your typical use.
>
>
May 24th Technet starts to be included in MAPS. You may want to wait
until then and see what shakes out.
From: Leythos on 11 May 2010 18:32
In article <#SCKuzU8KHA.1760(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, sbradcpa(a)pacbell.net
says...
>
> May 24th Technet starts to be included in MAPS. You may want to wait
> until then and see what shakes out.

Isn't that a different level of subscription, to get Technet?

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From: Susan Bradley on 11 May 2010 18:54
Leythos wrote:
> In article <#SCKuzU8KHA.1760(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, sbradcpa(a)pacbell.net
> says...
>
>> May 24th Technet starts to be included in MAPS. You may want to wait
>> until then and see what shakes out.
>>
>
> Isn't that a different level of subscription, to get Technet?
>
>
Nope. My understanding is that it won't include the 2 incidents, but
from what I understand (which is why I say wait until May 24th) it's to
have both MAPs and Technet in one MAPS subscription from now on.
From: Joe#2 on 11 May 2010 19:13
I've been looking over the information on Technet and it has no limitation
on time. One of their "selling points" is "no time limitation. It is also
not restricted as to where it is used. Business or work is permitted. Yes it
is for evaluation use, but the only way you can evaluate it is to use it.
Home server is a case in point. To evaluate it you have to use it to backup
sesktops or servers that are in use somewhere!
"Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.265365de3567b3d98a349(a)us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <uMtRdrS8KHA.3516(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> joe_stoneham(a)homail.com says...
>>
>> I'm winding down my busness and going into semi retirement. Consequently
>> I
>> am looking to cut back on my expensies. I do plan to contain my partner
>> status as long as microsoft will let me however. I don't really plan on
>> retiring from the profession as long as I can keep a few customers. As
>> part
>> of my business, I've been subscribing to both technet and MAPS for the
>> last
>> few years. MAPS has been required to stay in the Small Business
>> Specialist
>> of course.
>>
>> As I understand it, I will have to uninstall all of my Action Pac
>> software
>> etc, if I drop the MAPS subscription, I won't be able to use the Small
>> Business Specialist logo on my cards etc. Correct?
>>
>> However I am not required to do this on my technet subscription. I get to
>> continue its use even if I drop that package.
>>
>> Consequently, It would seem to me that from a business sense, the Technet
>> subscription would be the most logical subscription to keep if I had to
>> cut
>> back to only one subscription.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>
> Both subscriptions (MAPS/TN) are yearly subscriptions that are only
> valid as long as you maintain your subscription - yearly renewal.
>
> The difference between TechNet and MAPS is that MAPS can be used for
> PRODUCTION for your OWN business, Technet can only be used for testing
> and evaluation.
>
> "
> TechNet Plus Direct and TechNet Plus Single User are licensed to
> individuals. Software provided through the subscription is for
> evaluation purposes and cannot be used in a live production environment.
>
> Important: Prices listed are Estimated Retail Prices (ERP) in US dollars
> for a one-year subscription and do not include applicable taxes.
> Organizations should contact their Microsoft representative or preferred
> reseller for Volume Licensing prices.
> "
>
> MAPS is a better solution than Technet if you run a business or have
> ANYTHING that could be considered production.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
> spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)


From: Susan Bradley on 11 May 2010 19:32
You can stick it in a totally test network and evaluate it just fine.

Does it feel like you are testing it or using it?
If it feels like you are using it you are bending the rules of what it's
meant for.

See my post about how Maps will include technet soon.

Joe#2 wrote:
> I've been looking over the information on Technet and it has no limitation
> on time. One of their "selling points" is "no time limitation. It is also
> not restricted as to where it is used. Business or work is permitted. Yes it
> is for evaluation use, but the only way you can evaluate it is to use it.
> Home server is a case in point. To evaluate it you have to use it to backup
> sesktops or servers that are in use somewhere!
> "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.265365de3567b3d98a349(a)us.news.astraweb.com...
>
>> In article <uMtRdrS8KHA.3516(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>> joe_stoneham(a)homail.com says...
>>
>>> I'm winding down my busness and going into semi retirement. Consequently
>>> I
>>> am looking to cut back on my expensies. I do plan to contain my partner
>>> status as long as microsoft will let me however. I don't really plan on
>>> retiring from the profession as long as I can keep a few customers. As
>>> part
>>> of my business, I've been subscribing to both technet and MAPS for the
>>> last
>>> few years. MAPS has been required to stay in the Small Business
>>> Specialist
>>> of course.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, I will have to uninstall all of my Action Pac
>>> software
>>> etc, if I drop the MAPS subscription, I won't be able to use the Small
>>> Business Specialist logo on my cards etc. Correct?
>>>
>>> However I am not required to do this on my technet subscription. I get to
>>> continue its use even if I drop that package.
>>>
>>> Consequently, It would seem to me that from a business sense, the Technet
>>> subscription would be the most logical subscription to keep if I had to
>>> cut
>>> back to only one subscription.
>>>
>>> Comments appreciated.
>>>
>> Both subscriptions (MAPS/TN) are yearly subscriptions that are only
>> valid as long as you maintain your subscription - yearly renewal.
>>
>> The difference between TechNet and MAPS is that MAPS can be used for
>> PRODUCTION for your OWN business, Technet can only be used for testing
>> and evaluation.
>>
>> "
>> TechNet Plus Direct and TechNet Plus Single User are licensed to
>> individuals. Software provided through the subscription is for
>> evaluation purposes and cannot be used in a live production environment.
>>
>> Important: Prices listed are Estimated Retail Prices (ERP) in US dollars
>> for a one-year subscription and do not include applicable taxes.
>> Organizations should contact their Microsoft representative or preferred
>> reseller for Volume Licensing prices.
>> "
>>
>> MAPS is a better solution than Technet if you run a business or have
>> ANYTHING that could be considered production.
>>
>> --
>> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
>> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
>> Trust yourself.
>> spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
>>
>
>
>
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