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From: Roger Merriman on 19 Dec 2009 19:28 J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > > J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > > > > > > Not especially, no. Half the threads in this group start with "I'm > > > > having trouble with <foo> and I'm running Mac OS X version <bar>". It's > > > > hardly giving out your credit card information, is it? > > > > > > You clearly don't understand > > > the difference between giving and taking, > > > > I repeat: it's not exactly giving away your credit card details. > > It doesn't matter what it's about. > Taking things without permission is wrong, > > Jan possibly but it's very minor, note my unregistered is lazyness ie I've misplaced/lost/put safe the code a few years back.... it's on a list of things to do but well... roger -- www.rogermerriman.com
From: Jim on 20 Dec 2009 03:08 J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > > > > Not especially, no. Half the threads in this group start with "I'm > > > > having trouble with <foo> and I'm running Mac OS X version <bar>". It's > > > > hardly giving out your credit card information, is it? > > > > > > You clearly don't understand > > > the difference between giving and taking, > > > > I repeat: it's not exactly giving away your credit card details. > > It doesn't matter what it's about. > Taking things without permission is wrong, You're whining again. And you must _hate_ web browsers. Jim -- "Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
From: Rowland McDonnell on 20 Dec 2009 03:27 J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Mike Dee <mikedee(a)emteedee.invalid> wrote: > > > > > nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote: > > > > > > > MacSoup is fully functional without registration. > > > > All registration does is activate the spyware feature. > > > > You can try it at your ease. > > > > > > "Activate the _spyware_ feature"? Care to flesh this out a little, or > > > did you mean to type "de-activate" here instead? > > > > By `spyware features', he means that MacSoup makes posts like this one, > > which according to Jan provide spying-type personal information about > > the poster. > > > > I know what he's on about - can you see it? > > > > Rowland. > > > > P.S. If you've not worked it out yet, look at the headers. See the one > > that provides OS and application information? That's the spyware > > feature, at least according to Jan who's obviously even more barking mad > > than I am. > > MacSoup broadcasts information about your system to the world, > and there is no way you can control that. > Hence MacSoup is spyware. But it's not spying because it's not covert information gathering! It's information broadcasting - something quite different. > There can be no possible justification for this. > Stefan Haller can have his MacSoup vanity tag, > but he should not publish user information with it. Yeah, well, I'm concerned about aspects of my privacy, but I think you're being a bit silly about this one. Do you ensure that all your Web browsers provide spoofed info, for example? /That/ information sending is hidden from the user in general - why no complaints in that direction? Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 20 Dec 2009 05:10 On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:08:33 +0000, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) wrote: >J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > >> > > > Not especially, no. Half the threads in this group start with "I'm >> > > > having trouble with <foo> and I'm running Mac OS X version <bar>". It's >> > > > hardly giving out your credit card information, is it? >> > > >> > > You clearly don't understand >> > > the difference between giving and taking, >> > >> > I repeat: it's not exactly giving away your credit card details. >> >> It doesn't matter what it's about. >> Taking things without permission is wrong, > >You're whining again. > >And you must _hate_ web browsers. And TCP packets. Deriving the source OS from sequence number sequences is apparently a reasonably mature technique. Cheers - Jaimie -- Homeopaths suffer from dilutions of grandeur
From: J. J. Lodder on 20 Dec 2009 05:59
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Mike Dee <mikedee(a)emteedee.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote: > > > > > > > > > MacSoup is fully functional without registration. > > > > > All registration does is activate the spyware feature. > > > > > You can try it at your ease. > > > > > > > > "Activate the _spyware_ feature"? Care to flesh this out a little, or > > > > did you mean to type "de-activate" here instead? > > > > > > By `spyware features', he means that MacSoup makes posts like this one, > > > which according to Jan provide spying-type personal information about > > > the poster. > > > > > > I know what he's on about - can you see it? > > > > > > Rowland. > > > > > > P.S. If you've not worked it out yet, look at the headers. See the one > > > that provides OS and application information? That's the spyware > > > feature, at least according to Jan who's obviously even more barking mad > > > than I am. > > > > MacSoup broadcasts information about your system to the world, > > and there is no way you can control that. > > Hence MacSoup is spyware. > > But it's not spying because it's not covert information gathering! It is. MacSoup doesn't tell or warn you about it. > It's information broadcasting - something quite different. It is both. Spying and broadcasting, and therefore twice as obectionable. > > There can be no possible justification for this. > > Stefan Haller can have his MacSoup vanity tag, > > but he should not publish user information with it. > > Yeah, well, I'm concerned about aspects of my privacy, but I think > you're being a bit silly about this one. > > Do you ensure that all your Web browsers provide spoofed info, for > example? /That/ information sending is hidden from the user in general > - why no complaints in that direction? I would also object if a web site were to put it's gathered information about visitors on-line, Jan |