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From: T i m on 16 Jul 2010 01:43 Hi All, When trying to sort this MacBook to Canon printer problem recently (now done thanks to Sak) I was frustrated by a few things that I assume may be addressable. Firstly, is there a way to enable the right / alternate click on the trackpad buttons please? I looked in the prefs under 'mouse' and 'trackpad' but I couldn't spot the option in either (but then I was busy at the time). The second is what I think you call 'focus' (but it probably isn't) where new windows come to the foreground? It may not be something I've noticed before because our Macs are on 17 and 19" screens so you generally spot new windows opening up beside the main one but on this MacBook (13"?), double clicking on a freshly downloaded file (3 copies of the same) appeared to do nothing as it mounted /behind/ Safari? The users themselves don't push the Mac very hard so I can't see any setting changes affecting them negatively. Cheers, T i m
From: David Empson on 16 Jul 2010 02:20 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > When trying to sort this MacBook to Canon printer problem recently > (now done thanks to Sak) I was frustrated by a few things that I > assume may be addressable. > > Firstly, is there a way to enable the right / alternate click on the > trackpad buttons please? I looked in the prefs under 'mouse' and > 'trackpad' but I couldn't spot the option in either (but then I was > busy at the time). Assuming you have an older MacBook model with a single button below the trackpad, there are configuration options to use two-finger gestures on the trackpad to implement right click. The settings for this are in System Preferences > Trackpad. If you have "Tap to Click" enabled, then you can enable two-finger tap to do right-click. (I use this setting.) If you do not have "Tap to Click" enabled, then you can enable two fingers on trackpad with button click to do right-click. (I forget the exact wording - there is a series of three checkboxes with these options about half way down the preference pane. It is called "Secondary Click" instead of "Right Click".) Recent models with a multi-touch trackpad (button integrated into the trackpad) can be configured to do the two finger tap, and can also be configured to distinguish between clicks in the bottom left and bottom right corners, simulating the positions of the left and right buttons. You can of course specify whether the secondary click is on the left or right side. > The second is what I think you call 'focus' (but it probably isn't) > where new windows come to the foreground? > > It may not be something I've noticed before because our Macs are on 17 > and 19" screens so you generally spot new windows opening up beside > the main one but on this MacBook (13"?), double clicking on a freshly > downloaded file (3 copies of the same) appeared to do nothing as it > mounted /behind/ Safari? I don't get that. If I open a downloaded disk image from the Safari downloads window, the disk image window pops up in front of the main Safari window. More investigation may be needed to narrow down why we see different behaviour. > The users themselves don't push the Mac very hard so I can't see any > setting changes affecting them negatively. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: T i m on 16 Jul 2010 03:38 On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:20:27 +1200, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: >> Firstly, is there a way to enable the right / alternate click on the >> trackpad buttons please? I looked in the prefs under 'mouse' and >> 'trackpad' but I couldn't spot the option in either (but then I was >> busy at the time). > >Assuming you have an older MacBook model with a single button below the >trackpad, there are configuration options to use two-finger gestures on >the trackpad to implement right click. The settings for this are in >System Preferences > Trackpad. I believe the model is of that type with a longish mouse strip under the trackpad area? > >If you have "Tap to Click" enabled, then you can enable two-finger tap >to do right-click. (I use this setting.) I'm not sure they do have 'Tap to click' enabled and I think I saw that in the prefs (but was sort of opposite of what I was looking for). > >If you do not have "Tap to Click" enabled, then you can enable two >fingers on trackpad with button click to do right-click. Hmm, so no ordinary actual 'right mouse click' then? ;-( > >(I forget the exact wording - there is a series of three checkboxes with >these options about half way down the preference pane. It is called >"Secondary Click" instead of "Right Click".) Ok. > >Recent models with a multi-touch trackpad (button integrated into the >trackpad) can be configured to do the two finger tap, and can also be >configured to distinguish between clicks in the bottom left and bottom >right corners, simulating the positions of the left and right buttons. >You can of course specify whether the secondary click is on the left or >right side. Ok. So, it looks like you can't set a std 'right click from the actual mouse buttons and I'm not sure they (the owners of the Mac) would be bothered about anything else. It would really just be for me when I'm working on it for them to get to the extra options (I found myself trying the other keys in conjunction with the mouse to get the std right-click stuff but as that wasn't the goal at the time just went without). > >> The second is what I think you call 'focus' (but it probably isn't) >> where new windows come to the foreground? >> >> It may not be something I've noticed before because our Macs are on 17 >> and 19" screens so you generally spot new windows opening up beside >> the main one but on this MacBook (13"?), double clicking on a freshly >> downloaded file (3 copies of the same) appeared to do nothing as it >> mounted /behind/ Safari? > >I don't get that. If I open a downloaded disk image from the Safari >downloads window, the disk image window pops up in front of the main >Safari window. Yes, that's what I'm more used to as well (and assumed it had been turned off by mistake etc). > >More investigation may be needed to narrow down why we see different >behaviour. From your reply above I'm guessing what I expected was 'normal behaviour' and if that's not what I got then maybe it could have been something else, like, not being patient and clicking again so Safari going back into the foreground over the download pane? Similar with clicking /in/ the download window and not seeing anything happening so doing it again ... no, I couldn't have ..? Now we have the printing thing sorted I'll be able to look at it more closely the next time I'm there. Cheers, T i m
From: Woody on 16 Jul 2010 04:20 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:20:27 +1200, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David > Empson) wrote: > > > >> Firstly, is there a way to enable the right / alternate click on the > >> trackpad buttons please? I looked in the prefs under 'mouse' and > >> 'trackpad' but I couldn't spot the option in either (but then I was > >> busy at the time). > > > >Assuming you have an older MacBook model with a single button below the > >trackpad, there are configuration options to use two-finger gestures on > >the trackpad to implement right click. The settings for this are in > >System Preferences > Trackpad. > > I believe the model is of that type with a longish mouse strip under > the trackpad area? > > > >If you have "Tap to Click" enabled, then you can enable two-finger tap > >to do right-click. (I use this setting.) > > I'm not sure they do have 'Tap to click' enabled and I think I saw > that in the prefs (but was sort of opposite of what I was looking > for). > > > >If you do not have "Tap to Click" enabled, then you can enable two > >fingers on trackpad with button click to do right-click. > > Hmm, so no ordinary actual 'right mouse click' then? ;-( well, the two finger thing gives you a context menu when you click, isnt that what you mean? you cant have an actual right click as there is only one button. > Ok. So, it looks like you can't set a std 'right click from the actual > mouse buttons and I'm not sure they (the owners of the Mac) would be > bothered about anything else. It would really just be for me when I'm > working on it for them to get to the extra options (I found myself > trying the other keys in conjunction with the mouse to get the std > right-click stuff but as that wasn't the goal at the time just went > without). Two finger click simulates control click, which is normally what the second button is set to do as well when enabled. > >> The second is what I think you call 'focus' (but it probably isn't) > >> where new windows come to the foreground? > >> > >> It may not be something I've noticed before because our Macs are on 17 > >> and 19" screens so you generally spot new windows opening up beside > >> the main one but on this MacBook (13"?), double clicking on a freshly > >> downloaded file (3 copies of the same) appeared to do nothing as it > >> mounted /behind/ Safari? > > > >I don't get that. If I open a downloaded disk image from the Safari > >downloads window, the disk image window pops up in front of the main > >Safari window. > > Yes, that's what I'm more used to as well (and assumed it had been > turned off by mistake etc). Or by intention. Do you have 'Open safe attachments' selected in safari prefs? -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: T i m on 16 Jul 2010 04:38
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:20:38 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: >> >> Hmm, so no ordinary actual 'right mouse click' then? ;-( > >well, the two finger thing gives you a context menu when you click, Understood. > isnt >that what you mean? 'Secondary mouse options', yes. > you cant have an actual right click as there is only >one button. Ah. ;-( Now I thought there might be some 'magic' as with the other Apple mice I've had where there is no physical left / right buttons but the function exists (Mighty mouse)? > > >Two finger click simulates control click, which is normally what the >second button is set to do as well when enabled. Yes, and what I would 'do' instinctively on any laptop running Win / Lin and any Mac desktop with a mouse. If not right click on the mouse then I'd stumble though it other ways as I'm not going to instinctively go to anything else (as I only deal with this MacBook rarely). > >> >> Yes, that's what I'm more used to as well (and assumed it had been >> turned off by mistake etc). > >Or by intention. Not by me and I doubt by them. > >Do you have 'Open safe attachments' selected in safari prefs? Don't know so I'll check next time I'm there (and as I said to David, when I can apply more time / interest to that rather than it being a frustration re solving the printing thing. ;-) Cheers, T i m |