From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:32:47 -0700) it happened D Yuniskis
<not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote in <hl00kt$lc3$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>:

><grin> I have 5T spinning and another ~10T "off-line" (tape and disc).
>Not counting audio/video media.
>
>Note that an OS failure can trash your drive in half an Ohnosecond
>(been there, done that... opted not to buy the T-shirt). This is
>why I backup on tape and optical media :<

Yes, I have more then 750 DVDs in a alu case in the attic.
Some are the first DVDs that you could burn, say 10 years old now?
It is the backup...

My OS does NOT trash my hd :-), it runs Linux, and I have Reiserfs with several partitions on the 1TB.


>There are other devices that will clip onto the shaft of a
>{round, hex} screwdriver and grasp the screw from beneath the
>head. This works with even nylon (soft) screws. And, allows
>you to use whatever screwdriver you need (e.g., phillips,
>reeds and prince, clutch, torx, etc.) for the fastener at hand.

I will need to stock up on some more tools one day.

From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:28:05 -0600) it happened John O'Flaherty
<quiasmox(a)yeeha.com> wrote in <9ij6n5lhq8bi1rvno5i4sg76mgoib4pciq(a)4ax.com>:

>This stuff works well and doesn't leave any deposits. It's reusable,
>so a small package will last years:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Henkel-1087306-Loctite-1-5-Ounce-Mounting/dp/B001F57ZPW'
>
>--
>John

Good idea, thank you.
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:46:38 +0000) it happened Dirk Bruere at
NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote in <7th2b0F376U2(a)mid.individual.net>:

>Tim Williams wrote:
>> "Chris" <christofire(a)talktalk.net> wrote in message
>> news:d1a421a5-08da-44a2-baef-3f99c9103076(a)21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>>> Since when was 1.2 T 'not very strong'?!
>>
>> Since these bad boys showed up.
>> http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/mediacenter/features/meetthemagnets/900mhz.html
>>
>> Tim
>>
>Nothing compared with magnestars (magnetars)
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetar
>
>10GT

But they do not send them by mail,
and it is a long trip to pick one up.
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:45:06 -0500) it happened legg
<legg(a)nospam.magma.ca> wrote in <gcr7n51ah8qfbeugdfhsviqggptlkukt9q(a)4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:09:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Just got myself some small magnets, these are not very strong,
>>specified as about 1.2 Tesla IIRC, but anyways,
>>had to take some stuff apart, and had them on the work bench.
>>Normally screws are all over the place, but with these magnets everything just jumped to it :-)
>>Very easy, also used the magnets to magnetise my screwdrivers...
>>Works much easier.
>
>Magnetized tools can make manual smd placement a nightmare.
>
>RL

I just tried the magnets on some 5.6 and 10 pF SMD caps, and they do not stick?
From: Chris on
On 10 Feb, 22:51, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:19:55 -0800 (PST)) it happened Chris
> <christof...(a)talktalk.net> wrote in
> <d1a421a5-08da-44a2-baef-3f99c9103...(a)21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >On 10 Feb, 20:09, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Just got myself some small magnets, these are not very strong,
> >> specified as about 1.2 Tesla IIRC, but anyways,
> >> had to take some stuff apart, and had them on the work bench.
> >> Normally screws are all over the place, but with these magnets everything just jumped to it :-)
> >> Very easy, also used the magnets to magnetise my screwdrivers...
> >> Works much easier.
>
> >Since when was 1.2 T 'not very strong'?!
>
> >Chris
>
> Since I can separate thing from it easily.
> I think you can buy higher Telsa super magnets that come with a warning not to get your fingers
> in between :-)
> Wonder if they send them by mail, LOL.
>  http://www.supermagnete.nl/eng/magnets.php?group=blocks_big



Those are all about 1 tesla according to their table at
http://www.supermagnete.nl/eng/data_table.php, which seems typical for
Neodymium (-Iron-Boron) magnets, and those are 'the strongest magnets
in the world' according to that web site!

Tesla is the unit of flux density. The number around 40 is an 'energy
product' apparently: the square of B, in Tesla, divided by mu0 for
air, although the unit MegaGaussOersted must involve a strange
conversion.

I recently had some NdFeB magnets delivered by mail to UK from
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for:_Finishing/Guitar_Repair_Magnets.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=9
.... and I did wonder about them being carried in the hold of a plane.
I wonder if it's significant that I ordered an even number?! Perhaps
if you order three, they send you a fourth one free of charge!

Chris