From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:58:22 -0800 (PST)) it happened Chris
<christofire(a)talktalk.net> wrote in
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>> �http://www.supermagnete.nl/eng/magnets.php?group=blocks_big
>
>
>
>Those are all about 1 tesla according to their table at
>http://www.supermagnete.nl/eng/data_table.php, which seems typical for
>Neodymium (-Iron-Boron) magnets, and those are 'the strongest magnets
>in the world' according to that web site!

Yes, mine are rates at about 1.2 Tesla....

>Tesla is the unit of flux density. The number around 40 is an 'energy
>product' apparently: the square of B, in Tesla, divided by mu0 for
>air, although the unit MegaGaussOersted must involve a strange
>conversion.
>
>I recently had some NdFeB magnets delivered by mail to UK from
>http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for:_Finishing/Guitar_Repai=
>r_Magnets.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=9
>... and I did wonder about them being carried in the hold of a plane.

Nice, that those have a hole in it, good idea.

I was wondering if I ordered one the 'Death' magnets,
if the box it is in is small enough, how the postman would get it out of his little van :-)
It would stick to the metal, and not let go.

Your package probably did upset the plane's navigation equipment,
and made a detour via an other continent ;-)


>I wonder if it's significant that I ordered an even number?! Perhaps
>if you order three, they send you a fourth one free of charge!
>
>Chris

Marketing, it's ways are incomprehensible...

From: Royston Vasey on

"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:45:06 -0500) it happened legg
> <legg(a)nospam.magma.ca> wrote in
> <gcr7n51ah8qfbeugdfhsviqggptlkukt9q(a)4ax.com>:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:09:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Just got myself some small magnets, these are not very strong,
>>>specified as about 1.2 Tesla IIRC, but anyways,
>>>had to take some stuff apart, and had them on the work bench.
>>>Normally screws are all over the place, but with these magnets everything
>>>just jumped to it :-)
>>>Very easy, also used the magnets to magnetise my screwdrivers...
>>>Works much easier.
>>
>>Magnetized tools can make manual smd placement a nightmare.
>>
>>RL
>


> I just tried the magnets on some 5.6 and 10 pF SMD caps, and they do not
> stick?



I had some cheap s/steel tweezers, they got magnetised and would pull 805
resistors around.


From: life imitates life on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:32:13 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:32:47 -0700) it happened D Yuniskis
><not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote in <hl00kt$lc3$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>:
>
>><grin> I have 5T spinning and another ~10T "off-line" (tape and disc).
>>Not counting audio/video media.
>>
>>Note that an OS failure can trash your drive in half an Ohnosecond
>>(been there, done that... opted not to buy the T-shirt). This is
>>why I backup on tape and optical media :<
>
>Yes, I have more then 750 DVDs in a alu case in the attic.
>Some are the first DVDs that you could burn, say 10 years old now?
>It is the backup...
>
>My OS does NOT trash my hd :-), it runs Linux, and I have Reiserfs with several partitions on the 1TB.

Power loss does not equal HD trashing as much these days, even if a
write operation was being performed when it happened. The most that gets
lost usually is just the data that was being written at the time.
From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:06:37 -0700, D Yuniskis
<not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:

>Hi Jan,
>
>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:49:55 -0700) it happened D Yuniskis
>> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote in <hkv5h1$em9$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>:
>>
>>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> Just got myself some small magnets, these are not very strong,
>>>> specified as about 1.2 Tesla IIRC, but anyways,
>>>> had to take some stuff apart, and had them on the work bench.
>>> <grin> We don't allow magnets in the house (way too much magnetic
>>> media!)
>>
>> My floppies are far away in the attic, next to the CRT monitors...
>> The CRT stuff was why I kept magnets away.
>
>I think the only floppies I now have left are those for the Unisite.
>I'm more concerned with disks, mag tape, video tape and audio tape
>(the last two just until I can finish transcribing everything to
>digital format)

I have a quite old HP logic analyzer (came with probes, LOL) that
boots off a floppy. Took a bit of doing to back it up, but I did it.


>
>>>> Normally screws are all over the place, but with these magnets everything just jumped to it :-)
>>>> Very easy, also used the magnets to magnetise my screwdrivers...
>>>> Works much easier.
>>> Only works with ferrous screws. Someday you'll find yourself wondering
>>> why a particular screw "doesn't stick" (even if only for a moment).
>>> Then, you'll find a more universal way to hold screws on your
>>> screwdriver! ;-)
>>
>> Glue?
>
>There are some mechanical devices that can do this. I used to use
>a magnetic screwdriver until encountering painted/plated nonferrous
>screws (and wondering why it wouldn't "stick"). The same holds
>true for nylon, of course. Also, when working in tight quarters
>in a ferrous box, screws tend to "lean" off the screwdriver
>towards the wall of the box -- since mounting holes are often
>close to the edges of a box.

From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:31:27 -0800, Fred Abse
<excretatauris(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:20:37 -0800, Greegor wrote:
>
>> Aren't most stainless machine screws made
>> from alloys of stainless with ferrous steel in them?
>
>Name a non-ferrous steel ;-)

Perhaps he means "ferritic". ;-)

The 400-series (ferritic) stainlesses are quite ferromagnetic- you can
pick up big chunks with an electromagnet.