Make a limited XP account without losing settings?
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From: JosephKK on 24 Jul 2010 10:08 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:07:57 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Joel Koltner wrote: >> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:8ambqoFgivU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> My XP only offers "admin" and "limited". >> >> Ah, you must be running XP Home. Gotcha... although I can't say I have >> that much experience with it. >> > >Yes, XP Home. > > >>> It sure is clunky. Lots of things won't work in limited mode. I mean, >>> what's the security risk in turning sounds on and off? >> >> There's no security risk, but in the mind of many an IT guy, "limited" >> users aren't "supposed" to change sounds, backgrouns, keyboard/mouse >> settings, the start menu, etc. since it's just "asking for trouble" -- >> or something like that. Apparently Microsoft largely agrees with that >> definition... >> > >Well, I guess then Microsoft should get into the habit of talking more >to their customers. They tout in their latest ads that customers built >Win7 but I don't believe that. Everyone is bitching about this limited >user stuff around here. So they all run it as admin, not good. That's a >large part of the virus issues we are hearing about, if not the largest. You can learn tons of stuff here: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin/topics?lnk=srg&hl=en and here: http://www.mvps.org/
From: JosephKK on 24 Jul 2010 10:14 On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:59:00 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"JosephKK" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:kv8i46tv4e38u9hul49tcaeufihk18a909(a)4ax.com... >> It is not like they don't get an abundance of feedback from IT >> professionals and IT management. > >Agreed. I think a lot of people -- especially those who are responsible for >the upkeep of their own PC -- don't realize just how very tightly "locked >down" a lot of PCs in this world are, and similarly just how much demand there >is from IT guys to provide these controls in the first place. > >I don't recall the exact number, but in Windows XP there were something like >"many hundreds" of group policy settings, whereas in Windows Vista and Windows >7 there are now over 10,000. Amazing... > >---Joel Crickey, it has gotten worse than *nix ever was. That would be a good selling point for Linux/BSD/Solaris/*ix/*ux.
From: Grant on 24 Jul 2010 11:43 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:14:27 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:59:00 -0700, "Joel Koltner" ><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>"JosephKK" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:kv8i46tv4e38u9hul49tcaeufihk18a909(a)4ax.com... >>> It is not like they don't get an abundance of feedback from IT >>> professionals and IT management. >> >>Agreed. I think a lot of people -- especially those who are responsible for >>the upkeep of their own PC -- don't realize just how very tightly "locked >>down" a lot of PCs in this world are, and similarly just how much demand there >>is from IT guys to provide these controls in the first place. >> >>I don't recall the exact number, but in Windows XP there were something like >>"many hundreds" of group policy settings, whereas in Windows Vista and Windows >>7 there are now over 10,000. Amazing... >> >>---Joel > >Crickey, it has gotten worse than *nix ever was. That would be a good >selling point for Linux/BSD/Solaris/*ix/*ux. Except MSFT sell more aggressively, and, there's a pack of PC 'experts' making lotsa money tweaking those settings for mere mortals. Bit like lawyers and the laws, or taxes and accountants? Simplify law and taxes and millions of white collar leeches lose their livelihood. If people thought a bit more about their computing needs they'd not use MSFT, but most go through school not realising there's an alternative out there. MSFT eliminated choice way back, a PC comes with which OS? Sure some few offer Linux option these days, but for a long time there was effectively no choice. Then look at the tools you have now, that mainly run on PCs. Back in the 80s it was a tossup whether to go PC or unix workstation, for things like CAD. Grant.
From: Joel Koltner on 24 Jul 2010 19:58 "JosephKK" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:81tl46dekbds6a8mq8tj1rjql9slkc2gg2(a)4ax.com... > Crickey, it has gotten worse than *nix ever was. That would be a good > selling point for Linux/BSD/Solaris/*ix/*ux. You get hundreds more group policy settings if you install Office, too. :-)
From: JosephKK on 25 Jul 2010 10:57
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:43:56 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:14:27 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:59:00 -0700, "Joel Koltner" >><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>"JosephKK" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>news:kv8i46tv4e38u9hul49tcaeufihk18a909(a)4ax.com... >>>> It is not like they don't get an abundance of feedback from IT >>>> professionals and IT management. >>> >>>Agreed. I think a lot of people -- especially those who are responsible for >>>the upkeep of their own PC -- don't realize just how very tightly "locked >>>down" a lot of PCs in this world are, and similarly just how much demand there >>>is from IT guys to provide these controls in the first place. >>> >>>I don't recall the exact number, but in Windows XP there were something like >>>"many hundreds" of group policy settings, whereas in Windows Vista and Windows >>>7 there are now over 10,000. Amazing... >>> >>>---Joel >> >>Crickey, it has gotten worse than *nix ever was. That would be a good >>selling point for Linux/BSD/Solaris/*ix/*ux. > >Except MSFT sell more aggressively, and, there's a pack of PC 'experts' >making lotsa money tweaking those settings for mere mortals. Bit like >lawyers and the laws, or taxes and accountants? Simplify law and taxes >and millions of white collar leeches lose their livelihood. > >If people thought a bit more about their computing needs they'd not use >MSFT, but most go through school not realising there's an alternative >out there. MSFT eliminated choice way back, a PC comes with which OS? >Sure some few offer Linux option these days, but for a long time there >was effectively no choice. > >Then look at the tools you have now, that mainly run on PCs. Back in >the 80s it was a tossup whether to go PC or unix workstation, for things >like CAD. > >Grant. It was not a tossup until the early to mid 1990s. PCs just did not have the power of unix based workstations, but there was big price difference as well, for both HW and SW. |