From: Robert Macy on 8 Jun 2010 17:33 On Jun 8, 12:38 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote: > If you are having problems with "simple" programs taking up to 1 minute to > load in XP - then I would seriously investigate what programs are > automatically loaded into memory at start-up. ....snip.... What gets me is that the applications is extremely small <1MB, doesn't use much memory. And the load time is not consistent. Sometimes 5 seconds, sometimes a minute. have no idea what makes it variable. > Also, to see exactly what is auto-loaded at boot time, try "AutoRuns" also > from Microsoft. > > http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Autoruns.zip > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > thanks for the URL, will try this out.
From: Mike S on 8 Jun 2010 17:48 On 6/8/2010 2:33 PM, Robert Macy wrote: > On Jun 8, 12:38 pm, "Tim Meddick"<timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote: >> If you are having problems with "simple" programs taking up to 1 minute to >> load in XP - then I would seriously investigate what programs are >> automatically loaded into memory at start-up. > > ...snip.... > > What gets me is that the applications is extremely small<1MB, doesn't > use much memory. And the load time is not consistent. Sometimes 5 > seconds, sometimes a minute. have no idea what makes it variable. > > >> Also, to see exactly what is auto-loaded at boot time, try "AutoRuns" also >> from Microsoft. >> >> http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Autoruns.zip >> >> == >> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) >> > > thanks for the URL, will try this out. I like Startup Control Panel by Mike Lin too http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
From: Tim Meddick on 8 Jun 2010 18:08 My primary advice, if you take the time to re-read my post-before-last, was to begin by simply starting Task Manager. Then, in the "Processes" tab, re-arrange the running processes in order of "Mem Usage" (largest at top, to smallest). To try to discover if there are any loaded applications "hogging" resources (especially at times when loading "simple" Notepad-style apps takes ages). To this end I also advocated the possible using of some other tools : "Process Explorer" : http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessExplorer.zip "AutoRuns" : http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Autoruns.zip ....However, the most important thing is to first investigate Task Manager's process-list, at the time the PC is acting unusually "slow" to load applications. == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "Robert Macy" <macy(a)california.com> wrote in message news:2aa20813-010e-47ac-86f5-40eb08012a92(a)n37g2000prc.googlegroups.com... On Jun 8, 12:38 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote: > If you are having problems with "simple" programs taking up to 1 minute > to > load in XP - then I would seriously investigate what programs are > automatically loaded into memory at start-up. ....snip.... What gets me is that the applications is extremely small <1MB, doesn't use much memory. And the load time is not consistent. Sometimes 5 seconds, sometimes a minute. have no idea what makes it variable. > Also, to see exactly what is auto-loaded at boot time, try "AutoRuns" > also > from Microsoft. > > http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Autoruns.zip > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > thanks for the URL, will try this out.
From: glee on 9 Jun 2010 00:56 Thanks Tim. "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)o2.co.uk> wrote in message news:eaoyM4zBLHA.1940(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > The "TweakUI.exe" powertoy can be downloaded SEPERATLY without the > need to download the entire XP Powertoys package, by clicking on the > link below : > > Download the small TweakUI installation file from the link below : > > http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe > > > > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > > > > > "glee" <glee29(a)spamindspring.com> wrote in message > news:hukb48$pid$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> "dadiOH" <dadiOH(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:%23zMyASkBLHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> jerome.hill(a)nospam.com wrote: >>>> I have used Win98 since 98. I really didn't care to upgrade, but >>>> it >>>> seems there's just too much stuff that dont work in 98 anymore. I >>>> just bought another (used) computer with XP installed, and will >>>> keep >>>> my Win98 computer as it is. That way I can use either one. The >>>> old >>>> one was too slow for XP and dual booting seemed like a hassle to >>>> setup. So, now I just have 2 computers. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, I recall someone long ago saying there's a way to make XP >>>> look >>>> and act like Win98. I really dont care to have to get used to a >>>> new >>>> look, and XP has too much junk I dont care to use anyhow, like that >>>> dog cartoon. Not only do I not want that stuff, but I have always >>>> believed that any computer should use it's power for tasks, not >>>> unneeded toys, which is one reason I never load anything not >>>> required >>>> by the OS into memory upon booting. I dont even run automatic virus >>>> scans. I do it manually. I dont run screen savers or any of that >>>> junk. >>>> >>>> So, what's the method to make XP look like Win98? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jerome >>> >>> Display Properties >>> Appearance tab >>> Windows and buttons >>> Select "Windows Classic Style" >>> >>> Right click the taskbar >>> Properties >>> Start Menu tab >>> Check "Classic Start menu" >>> >>> Those will clean it up pretty well. >> >> >> I would add one more: >> Download the Microsoft Powertoys for Windows XP. All you need is >> Tweak UI for XP from the package. >> Install and then run TweakUI. >> Go to the Explorer sub-menu. In the details pane find "Use Classic >> Search in Explorer" and select it. >> Click Apply> OK. >> >> That will replace the brainless XP search function (and the dog) with >> the simpler Win2K search window. >> >> Microsoft PowerToys for Windows XP >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx >> >> This and other tips can be found here: >> http://www.petri.co.il/restore_classic_search_in_windows_xp.htm >> >> -- >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 >> A+ >> http://dts-l.net/ >> >
From: glee on 9 Jun 2010 01:06
"Robert Macy" <macy(a)california.com> wrote in message news:bd9e3a4f-83ff-417f-aed1-e83b29a4fec4(a)r5g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> snip >4. superior in every way? then someone should have paid attention to >what I can see, for example, the long delay between transitions. 1 >minute to start up a simple application, when Win98 starts it >immediately, those kinds of things, what I see. > >It's just that I've given up precious 'time' for not much. But in >deference, a friend of mine said he uses WinXP because of its ability >to recover from a blown install. Too difficult with Win98 > snip On what hardware are you trying to run XP? If you try to run any newer OS on older hardware, you are going to see delays. What processor, chipset, amount of RAM, and so forth, are you basing this 'evaluation'? I've never seen anything you describe using XP on adequate hardware. I have seen Win95/98 crawl on Win3x/DOS-capable hardware, and XP run slow on hardware suitable for Win98 or 2K -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |