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From: Jose on 9 Jun 2010 21:06 On Jun 9, 8:53 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote: > You don't think it's because of background processes loaded and you think > "think your long log-in time is coming from elsewhere".... > > At this moment, all I have open is a CMD Prompt, 1 Internet Explorer window > and OE. > > Here's a reproduction of the current output of Tasklist.exe on my machine : > > Image Name PID Session Name Session# Mem Usage > ========================= ====== ================ > System Idle Process 0 Console 0 16 K > System 4 Console 0 44 K > smss.exe 612 Console 0 44 K > csrss.exe 688 Console 0 1,580 K > winlogon.exe 712 Console 0 3,012 K > services.exe 756 Console 0 1,580 K > lsass.exe 768 Console 0 1,680 K > svchost.exe 932 Console 0 1,580 K > svchost.exe 1052 Console 0 1,684 K > MsMpEng.exe 1120 Console 0 20,952 K > RapportMgmtService.exe 1176 Console 0 10,388 K > svchost.exe 1220 Console 0 23,756 K > svchost.exe 1304 Console 0 4,616 K > spoolsv.exe 1576 Console 0 1,324 K > svchost.exe 1748 Console 0 628 K > avgwdsvc.exe 1792 Console 0 2,556 K > svchost.exe 108 Console 0 1,560 K > jqs.exe 212 Console 0 1,388 K > SMAgent.exe 456 Console 0 48 K > svchost.exe 488 Console 0 2,084 K > avgrsx.exe 396 Console 0 176 K > timeserv.exe 320 Console 0 44 K > avgemc.exe 684 Console 0 656 K > avgcsrvx.exe 2072 Console 0 52 K > alg.exe 2584 Console 0 780 K > explorer.exe 3308 Console 0 12,968 K > RapportService.exe 3348 Console 0 22,076 K > BlueSoleil.exe 164 Console 0 2,776 K > avgtray.exe 276 Console 0 4,200 K > hkcmd.exe 436 Console 0 224 K > TaskSwitch.exe 2484 Console 0 1,680 K > MSASCui.exe 3824 Console 0 3,164 K > Monitor.exe 2720 Console 0 472 K > jusched.exe 2520 Console 0 52 K > LUNABAR.EXE 3876 Console 0 1,152 K > WZQKPICK.EXE 3568 Console 0 260 K > SAVER.EXE 4048 Console 0 496 K > ZOOM.EXE 3964 Console 0 280 K > PrvDisk.exe 1492 Console 0 388 K > tclock.exe 1476 Console 0 976 K > Diskmon.exe 2008 Console 0 2,348 K > CTFMON.EXE 1128 Console 0 460 K > CLOCK.EXE 2644 Console 0 492 K > UnlockerAssistant.exe 3244 Console 0 232 K > TimsMGR.exe 3452 Console 0 1,864 K > cmd.exe 2380 Console 0 1,080 K > ntvdm.exe 3792 Console 0 56 K > explorer.exe 3572 Console 0 1,732 K > msimn.exe 2708 Console 0 14,864 K > avgnsx.exe 1652 Console 0 348 K > iexplore.exe 3684 Console 0 10,852 K > mscorsvw.exe 6064 Console 0 736 K > cisvc.exe 3440 Console 0 124 K > cidaemon.exe 4532 Console 0 200 K > wuauclt.exe 2928 Console 0 2,260 K > ServiceLayer.exe 5120 Console 0 2,920 K > DATALAY.EXE 3712 Console 0 3,168 K > wmiprvse.exe 4996 Console 0 5,932 K > tasklist.exe 3272 Console 0 4,904 K > > P.C. Details : > > Fujitsu Siemens Computers Model: Scenic T (i845GL) > CPU = x86 Family 15 Model 1 Stepping 2 GenuineIntel ~1.7 GHz > BIOS = Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 4.06 Rev.1.03.1421; 23/07/2002 > Hardware Abstraction 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111) > Total Physical Memory Available = 512.00 MB > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > > "glee" <gle...(a)spamindspring.com> wrote in message > > news:hupbv0$sh2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > > > > < clipped > Here is mine: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6530/taskmanagerv.jpg I will reduce your startup/login time. My current rate is $1 per second of time decrease measured before and after. There is no charge for increases.
From: glee on 9 Jun 2010 21:44 "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)o2.co.uk> wrote in message news:esmvVdDCLHA.1072(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > You don't think it's because of background processes loaded and you > think "think your long log-in time is coming from elsewhere".... > > At this moment, all I have open is a CMD Prompt, 1 Internet Explorer > window and OE. > > Here's a reproduction of the current output of Tasklist.exe on my > machine : > > > Image Name PID Session Name Session# Mem > Usage > ========================= ====== ================ > System Idle Process 0 Console 0 16 > K > System 4 Console 0 44 > K > smss.exe 612 Console 0 44 > K > csrss.exe 688 Console 0 1,580 > K > winlogon.exe 712 Console 0 3,012 > K > services.exe 756 Console 0 1,580 > K > lsass.exe 768 Console 0 1,680 > K > svchost.exe 932 Console 0 1,580 > K > svchost.exe 1052 Console 0 1,684 > K > MsMpEng.exe 1120 Console 0 20,952 > K > RapportMgmtService.exe 1176 Console 0 10,388 > K > svchost.exe 1220 Console 0 23,756 > K > svchost.exe 1304 Console 0 4,616 > K > spoolsv.exe 1576 Console 0 1,324 > K > svchost.exe 1748 Console 0 628 > K > avgwdsvc.exe 1792 Console 0 2,556 > K > svchost.exe 108 Console 0 1,560 > K > jqs.exe 212 Console 0 1,388 > K > SMAgent.exe 456 Console 0 48 > K > svchost.exe 488 Console 0 2,084 > K > avgrsx.exe 396 Console 0 176 > K > timeserv.exe 320 Console 0 44 > K > avgemc.exe 684 Console 0 656 > K > avgcsrvx.exe 2072 Console 0 52 > K > alg.exe 2584 Console 0 780 > K > explorer.exe 3308 Console 0 12,968 > K > RapportService.exe 3348 Console 0 22,076 > K > BlueSoleil.exe 164 Console 0 2,776 > K > avgtray.exe 276 Console 0 4,200 > K > hkcmd.exe 436 Console 0 224 > K > TaskSwitch.exe 2484 Console 0 1,680 > K > MSASCui.exe 3824 Console 0 3,164 > K > Monitor.exe 2720 Console 0 472 > K > jusched.exe 2520 Console 0 52 > K > LUNABAR.EXE 3876 Console 0 1,152 > K > WZQKPICK.EXE 3568 Console 0 260 > K > SAVER.EXE 4048 Console 0 496 > K > ZOOM.EXE 3964 Console 0 280 > K > PrvDisk.exe 1492 Console 0 388 > K > tclock.exe 1476 Console 0 976 > K > Diskmon.exe 2008 Console 0 2,348 > K > CTFMON.EXE 1128 Console 0 460 > K > CLOCK.EXE 2644 Console 0 492 > K > UnlockerAssistant.exe 3244 Console 0 232 > K > TimsMGR.exe 3452 Console 0 1,864 > K > cmd.exe 2380 Console 0 1,080 > K > ntvdm.exe 3792 Console 0 56 > K > explorer.exe 3572 Console 0 1,732 > K > msimn.exe 2708 Console 0 14,864 > K > avgnsx.exe 1652 Console 0 348 > K > iexplore.exe 3684 Console 0 10,852 > K > mscorsvw.exe 6064 Console 0 736 > K > cisvc.exe 3440 Console 0 124 > K > cidaemon.exe 4532 Console 0 200 > K > wuauclt.exe 2928 Console 0 2,260 > K > ServiceLayer.exe 5120 Console 0 2,920 > K > DATALAY.EXE 3712 Console 0 3,168 > K > wmiprvse.exe 4996 Console 0 5,932 > K > tasklist.exe 3272 Console 0 4,904 > K > > snip LOL! Tim! Are you seriously going to discuss how XP runs all these background processes, and that post a task list full of third-party processes as proof?! Please tell me you are joking! Every one of the processes I have copied below from your list are third-party processes you have added (some are NT Resource Kit or XP Power Toys processes), not XP processes: RapportMgmtService.exe timeserv.exe RapportService.exe BlueSoleil.exe TaskSwitch.exe Monitor.exe LUNABAR.EXE WZQKPICK.EXE SAVER.EXE ZOOM.EXE PrvDisk.exe tclock.exe Diskmon.exe CLOCK.EXE UnlockerAssistant.exe TimsMGR.exe ServiceLayer.exe DATALAY.EXE NO WONDER you take so long to log on! As I stated, it isn't from XP serives and processes. These are AVG anti-virus processes: avgwdsvc.exe avgrsx.exe avgemc.exe avgcsrvx.exe The only XP processes there that I would eliminate are cisvc.exe and cidaemon.exe, and that is done by turning off Search Indexing. Windows XP may run slowly and you may see multiple symptoms in Windows Task Manager http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899869 Then you can right-click the C: in My Computer, then click Properties, and uncheck "Allow indexing service to....." Cheers! -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/
From: Tim Meddick on 9 Jun 2010 22:01 Yes, some of those processes are of my own choosing... Quick, aren't you! However, the discussion was started with one of the topics being the differences between XP and the Win98 OSes. My tasklist for Win98 went something like : systray.exe explorer.exe ...and my tasklist for XP WITHOUT anything "custom" goes something like : smss csrss winlogon services lsass svchost svchost MsMpEng svchost svchost spoolsv svchost avgwdsvc (I have to have some AV installed!) svchost jqs SMAgent svchost avgrsx (more of the AV) avgemc (and more AV) avgcsrvx (yet more AV) alg explorer avgtray (and more AV) hkcmd MSASCui Monitor jusched CTFMON Taskmgr cmd ntvdm explorer avgnsx (last bit of AV) iexplore mscorsvw cisvc cidaemon wuauclt ServiceLayer wuauclt == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "glee" <glee29(a)spamindspring.com> wrote in message news:hupg1b$c50$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)o2.co.uk> wrote in message > news:esmvVdDCLHA.1072(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> You don't think it's because of background processes loaded and you >> think "think your long log-in time is coming from elsewhere".... >> >> At this moment, all I have open is a CMD Prompt, 1 Internet Explorer >> window and OE. >> >> Here's a reproduction of the current output of Tasklist.exe on my >> machine : >> >> >> Image Name PID Session Name Session# Mem Usage >> ========================= ====== ================ >> System Idle Process 0 Console 0 16 K >> System 4 Console 0 44 K >> smss.exe 612 Console 0 44 K >> csrss.exe 688 Console 0 1,580 K >> winlogon.exe 712 Console 0 3,012 K >> services.exe 756 Console 0 1,580 K >> lsass.exe 768 Console 0 1,680 K >> svchost.exe 932 Console 0 1,580 K >> svchost.exe 1052 Console 0 1,684 K >> MsMpEng.exe 1120 Console 0 20,952 K >> RapportMgmtService.exe 1176 Console 0 10,388 K >> svchost.exe 1220 Console 0 23,756 K >> svchost.exe 1304 Console 0 4,616 K >> spoolsv.exe 1576 Console 0 1,324 K >> svchost.exe 1748 Console 0 628 K >> avgwdsvc.exe 1792 Console 0 2,556 K >> svchost.exe 108 Console 0 1,560 K >> jqs.exe 212 Console 0 1,388 K >> SMAgent.exe 456 Console 0 48 K >> svchost.exe 488 Console 0 2,084 K >> avgrsx.exe 396 Console 0 176 K >> timeserv.exe 320 Console 0 44 K >> avgemc.exe 684 Console 0 656 K >> avgcsrvx.exe 2072 Console 0 52 K >> alg.exe 2584 Console 0 780 K >> explorer.exe 3308 Console 0 12,968 K >> RapportService.exe 3348 Console 0 22,076 K >> BlueSoleil.exe 164 Console 0 2,776 K >> avgtray.exe 276 Console 0 4,200 K >> hkcmd.exe 436 Console 0 224 K >> TaskSwitch.exe 2484 Console 0 1,680 K >> MSASCui.exe 3824 Console 0 3,164 K >> Monitor.exe 2720 Console 0 472 K >> jusched.exe 2520 Console 0 52 K >> LUNABAR.EXE 3876 Console 0 1,152 K >> WZQKPICK.EXE 3568 Console 0 260 K >> SAVER.EXE 4048 Console 0 496 K >> ZOOM.EXE 3964 Console 0 280 K >> PrvDisk.exe 1492 Console 0 388 K >> tclock.exe 1476 Console 0 976 K >> Diskmon.exe 2008 Console 0 2,348 K >> CTFMON.EXE 1128 Console 0 460 K >> CLOCK.EXE 2644 Console 0 492 K >> UnlockerAssistant.exe 3244 Console 0 232 K >> TimsMGR.exe 3452 Console 0 1,864 K >> cmd.exe 2380 Console 0 1,080 K >> ntvdm.exe 3792 Console 0 56 K >> explorer.exe 3572 Console 0 1,732 K >> msimn.exe 2708 Console 0 14,864 K >> avgnsx.exe 1652 Console 0 348 K >> iexplore.exe 3684 Console 0 10,852 K >> mscorsvw.exe 6064 Console 0 736 K >> cisvc.exe 3440 Console 0 124 K >> cidaemon.exe 4532 Console 0 200 K >> wuauclt.exe 2928 Console 0 2,260 K >> ServiceLayer.exe 5120 Console 0 2,920 K >> DATALAY.EXE 3712 Console 0 3,168 K >> wmiprvse.exe 4996 Console 0 5,932 K >> tasklist.exe 3272 Console 0 4,904 K >> >> snip > > LOL! Tim! Are you seriously going to discuss how XP runs all these > background processes, and that post a task list full of third-party > processes as proof?! Please tell me you are joking! > > Every one of the processes I have copied below from your list are > third-party processes you have added (some are NT Resource Kit or XP > Power Toys processes), not XP processes: > > RapportMgmtService.exe > timeserv.exe > RapportService.exe > BlueSoleil.exe > TaskSwitch.exe > Monitor.exe > LUNABAR.EXE > WZQKPICK.EXE > SAVER.EXE > ZOOM.EXE > PrvDisk.exe > tclock.exe > Diskmon.exe > CLOCK.EXE > UnlockerAssistant.exe > TimsMGR.exe > ServiceLayer.exe > DATALAY.EXE > > NO WONDER you take so long to log on! > As I stated, it isn't from XP serives and processes. > > These are AVG anti-virus processes: > avgwdsvc.exe > avgrsx.exe > avgemc.exe > avgcsrvx.exe > > The only XP processes there that I would eliminate are cisvc.exe and > cidaemon.exe, and that is done by turning off Search Indexing. > > Windows XP may run slowly and you may see multiple symptoms in Windows > Task Manager > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899869 > > Then you can right-click the C: in My Computer, then click Properties, > and uncheck "Allow indexing service to....." > > Cheers! > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 > A+ > http://dts-l.net/ >
From: glee on 9 Jun 2010 22:23 OK...we'll top post. 1) You're still listing a few non-XP processes in your new list. 2) Win98 would have shown more than what you listed if you ran an anti-virus and some other utilities shown in your XP list. 3) The "task list' from Ctrl+Alt+Del in Win98 did NOT show anywhere near all processes that were actually running. If you still have a Win98 installation (I do), run Process Explorer and you will see the "real" task list, and it will show closer to the same number of processes as a basic XP system...it will likely even show your mscorsvw if you install .NET Framework on Win98. Tim Meddick" <timmeddick(a)o2.co.uk> wrote in message news:ewqfSDECLHA.3880(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Yes, some of those processes are of my own choosing... > > Quick, aren't you! > > However, the discussion was started with one of the topics being the > differences between XP and the Win98 OSes. > > My tasklist for Win98 went something like : > > systray.exe > explorer.exe > > > ..and my tasklist for XP WITHOUT anything "custom" goes something like > : > > smss > csrss > winlogon > services > lsass > svchost > svchost > MsMpEng > svchost > svchost > spoolsv > svchost > avgwdsvc (I have to have some AV installed!) > svchost > jqs > SMAgent > svchost > avgrsx (more of the AV) > avgemc (and more AV) > avgcsrvx (yet more AV) > alg > explorer > avgtray (and more AV) > hkcmd > MSASCui > Monitor > jusched > CTFMON > Taskmgr > cmd > ntvdm > explorer > avgnsx (last bit of AV) > iexplore > mscorsvw > cisvc > cidaemon > wuauclt > ServiceLayer > wuauclt > > > > > "glee" <glee29(a)spamindspring.com> wrote in message > news:hupg1b$c50$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> LOL! Tim! Are you seriously going to discuss how XP runs all these >> background processes, and that post a task list full of third-party >> processes as proof?! Please tell me you are joking! >> >> Every one of the processes I have copied below from your list are >> third-party processes you have added (some are NT Resource Kit or XP >> Power Toys processes), not XP processes: >> >> RapportMgmtService.exe >> timeserv.exe >> RapportService.exe >> BlueSoleil.exe >> TaskSwitch.exe >> Monitor.exe >> LUNABAR.EXE >> WZQKPICK.EXE >> SAVER.EXE >> ZOOM.EXE >> PrvDisk.exe >> tclock.exe >> Diskmon.exe >> CLOCK.EXE >> UnlockerAssistant.exe >> TimsMGR.exe >> ServiceLayer.exe >> DATALAY.EXE >> >> NO WONDER you take so long to log on! >> As I stated, it isn't from XP serives and processes. >> >> These are AVG anti-virus processes: >> avgwdsvc.exe >> avgrsx.exe >> avgemc.exe >> avgcsrvx.exe >> >> The only XP processes there that I would eliminate are cisvc.exe and >> cidaemon.exe, and that is done by turning off Search Indexing. >> >> Windows XP may run slowly and you may see multiple symptoms in >> Windows Task Manager >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899869 >> >> Then you can right-click the C: in My Computer, then click >> Properties, and uncheck "Allow indexing service to....." >> >> Cheers! -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/
From: Robert Macy on 10 Jun 2010 14:17
On Jun 9, 7:23 pm, "glee" <gle...(a)spamindspring.com> wrote: > OK...we'll top post. > > 1) You're still listing a few non-XP processes in your new list. > 2) Win98 would have shown more than what you listed if you ran an > anti-virus and some other utilities shown in your XP list. > 3) The "task list' from Ctrl+Alt+Del in Win98 did NOT show anywhere near > all processes that were actually running. > > If you still have a Win98 installation (I do), run Process Explorer and > you will see the "real" task list, and it will show closer to the same > number of processes as a basic XP system...it will likely even show your > mscorsvw if you install .NET Framework on Win98. > > Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:ewqfSDECLHA.3880(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > Yes, some of those processes are of my own choosing... > > > Quick, aren't you! > > > However, the discussion was started with one of the topics being the > > differences between XP and the Win98 OSes. > > > My tasklist for Win98 went something like : > > > systray.exe > > explorer.exe > > > ..and my tasklist for XP WITHOUT anything "custom" goes something like > > : > > > smss > > csrss > > winlogon > > services > > lsass > > svchost > > svchost > > MsMpEng > > svchost > > svchost > > spoolsv > > svchost > > avgwdsvc (I have to have some AV installed!) > > svchost > > jqs > > SMAgent > > svchost > > avgrsx (more of the AV) > > avgemc (and more AV) > > avgcsrvx (yet more AV) > > alg > > explorer > > avgtray (and more AV) > > hkcmd > > MSASCui > > Monitor > > jusched > > CTFMON > > Taskmgr > > cmd > > ntvdm > > explorer > > avgnsx (last bit of AV) > > iexplore > > mscorsvw > > cisvc > > cidaemon > > wuauclt > > ServiceLayer > > wuauclt > > > "glee" <gle...(a)spamindspring.com> wrote in message > >news:hupg1b$c50$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > >> LOL! Tim! Are you seriously going to discuss how XP runs all these > >> background processes, and that post a task list full of third-party > >> processes as proof?! Please tell me you are joking! > > >> Every one of the processes I have copied below from your list are > >> third-party processes you have added (some are NT Resource Kit or XP > >> Power Toys processes), not XP processes: > > >> RapportMgmtService.exe > >> timeserv.exe > >> RapportService.exe > >> BlueSoleil.exe > >> TaskSwitch.exe > >> Monitor.exe > >> LUNABAR.EXE > >> WZQKPICK.EXE > >> SAVER.EXE > >> ZOOM.EXE > >> PrvDisk.exe > >> tclock.exe > >> Diskmon.exe > >> CLOCK.EXE > >> UnlockerAssistant.exe > >> TimsMGR.exe > >> ServiceLayer.exe > >> DATALAY.EXE > > >> NO WONDER you take so long to log on! > >> As I stated, it isn't from XP serives and processes. > > >> These are AVG anti-virus processes: > >> avgwdsvc.exe > >> avgrsx.exe > >> avgemc.exe > >> avgcsrvx.exe > > >> The only XP processes there that I would eliminate are cisvc.exe and > >> cidaemon.exe, and that is done by turning off Search Indexing. > > >> Windows XP may run slowly and you may see multiple symptoms in > >> Windows Task Manager > >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899869 > > >> Then you can right-click the C: in My Computer, then click > >> Properties, and uncheck "Allow indexing service to....." > > >> Cheers! > > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 > A+http://dts-l.net/ I found 4 different versions of Process Explorer previously downloaded on this machine [Win98]; one is labeled specifically for the WinXP none of them appeared to do anything, so... Process Explorer 11.3 software download - Windows - VersionTracker Feb 16, 2006 ... Find Process Explorer downloads, reviews, and updates for ... Windows XP; Windows 2003; Windows 2000; Windows NT; Windows 98; Windows 95 ... www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/32005 - downled that version, ran it, again, nothing what's it supposed to do? I did find an entry in the ctrl-alt-del listing showing procexplorer, or such, was running, but other than that, nothing going on. What is it supposed to do? |