Mass-Energy Equivalence
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From: mpc755 on 28 Apr 2010 07:49 On Apr 27, 7:37 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > you still have not given us any "electromagnetic property" > of aether; it's just some sort of "emmission theoretical dis- > placement," with no math attached, and no theory. > http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/ Quote from Albert A Michelson's lecture circa 1899. "Suppose that an aether strain corresponds to an electric charge, an aether displacement to the electric current, aether vortices to the atoms; if we continue these suppositions, we arrive at what may be one of the grandest generalizations of modern science, namely that all the phenomena of the physical universe are only different manifestations of the various modes of motion of one all-pervading (substance), the aether. The day seems not to distant when the converging lines from many apparently remote regions of thought will meet on some common ground. Then the nature of the atom and the forces called into play in their chemical union, the interactions between these atoms and the non-differentiated aether as manifested in the phenomena of light and electricity , the structure of the molecule, the explanation of cohesion, elasticity and gravitation, all of these will be marshaled into a single compact and consistent body of scientific knowledge." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current "In electromagnetism, displacement current is a quantity that is defined in terms of the rate of change of electric displacement field. Displacement current has the units of electric current density, and it has an associated magnetic field just as actual currents do. However it is not an electric current of moving charges, but a time-varying electric field. In materials, there is also a contribution from the slight motion of charges bound in atoms, dielectric polarization. The idea was conceived by Maxwell in his 1861 paper On Physical Lines of Force in connection with the displacement of electric particles in a dielectric medium. Maxwell added displacement current to the electric current term in Ampère's Circuital Law. In his 1865 paper A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field Maxwell used this amended version of Ampère's Circuital Law to derive the electromagnetic wave equation. This derivation is now generally accepted as an historical landmark in physics by virtue of uniting electricity, magnetism and optics into one single unified theory. The displacement current term is now seen as a crucial addition that completed Maxwell's equations and is necessary to explain many phenomena, most particularly the existence of electromagnetic waves." Michelson's concept of "aether displacement to the electric current" is analogous to Maxwell's 'displacement current'. 'Aether and matter; a development of the dynamical relations of the aether to material systems on the basis of the atomic constitution of matter including a discussion of the influence of the earth's motion on optical phenomena, being an Adams prize essay in the University of Cambridge (1900)' http://www.archive.org/details/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft "The new departure instated by Maxwell came, when expressed mathematically, to a statement that dynamically all electric discharges are effectively of the nature and possess the properties of systems of losed currents, being completed when necessary by so-called isplacement-currents in free space and in dielectric media ; in fact that the consideration of the electrodynamics of unclosed circuits never arises." "The theory, at the stage at which it was left by Maxwell, being a theory of complete electric circuits, the total current was a continuous streaming flow ; there proved to be no necessity, in the case of systems at rest, for keeping distinct the current of conduction, the current arising from changing electric polarization in a dielectric substance, and the displacement current belonging to free aether apart from matter altogether: the only hypothesis he required was that there is an aethereal current of such amount as to complete into a single circuital stream all the types of true electric flux which are associated with matter. These distinctions however become essential as soon as the theory is to take cognizance of the motion of the matter, especially in the domain of radiation where a mere equilibrium theory, contemplating the convection unaltered of its electric field along with the matter, is not a valid approximation. Then convection, relative to the aether, of electric charge and of dielectric polarization, contributes to the total current, as well as the change of aethereal elastic displacement and of material polarization. The problem thus presents itself in the form of two media, the aether and the matter, each with its own motion, but both occupying the same space ; and some idea has to be formed of the interconnexions by which they influence each other." 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement.
From: spudnik on 28 Apr 2010 15:37 1. The circle that measures ecliptic latitude, that is, the number of degrees above or below the ecliptic of the Moon or the planets. It is properly calibrated when it reads "zero" every day at noon, when sighting the Sun. 2. A half-circle and plumb-bob attached to the sighting arm, which gives the elevation of a star or planet above the horizon. 3. Equatorial plane, points to the celestial equator, by tilting it from the horizontal by an angle equal to the co-latitude. The 14"circle on it is divided up into hours, for sidereal time or right ascension (when necessary, these readings can easily be converted into degrees, since 1 hour = 15 degrees). 4. Base, in the plane of the observer's horizon, oriented so that the axis of symmetry is on the north-south meridian. 5. Ecliptic plane, also known as the 23.5-degree wedge, set parallel to the plane of the ecliptic. The 12"circle on this plane is divided up into 24 hours, giving ecliptic longitude, where the position of the Sun is the sidereal time at noon for that day. 6. Sighting arm, with sights for "shooting"a planet, star, the Moon, or the Sun. Source: Adapted from Sentiel Rommel, "Maui's Tanawa: A Torquetum of 232 B.C.," 21st Century, Spring 1999, p. 75. > Aether is uncompressed matter and matter is compressed aether, so if > you want to say light propagates through uncompressed matter, that > would be correct. > > what ever it says, Shapiro's last book is just a polemic; > > his real "proof" is _1599_; > > the fans of de Vere are hopelessly stuck-up -- > > especially if they went to Harry Potter PS#1. http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://entertainment.timesonline.co.... --Light: A History! http://wlym.com
From: BURT on 28 Apr 2010 15:43 On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light? > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Light propagates with respect to the aether. > > > By what energy? > > Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The > displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light > wave. Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese? What frequency is the aether? Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 28 Apr 2010 20:18 On Apr 28, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light? > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > Light propagates with respect to the aether. > > > > By what energy? > > > Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The > > displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light > > wave. > > Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese? > What frequency is the aether? > > Mitch Raemsch 'Aether and matter; a development of the dynamical relations of the aether to material systems on the basis of the atomic constitution of matter including a discussion of the influence of the earth's motion on optical phenomena, being an Adams prize essay in the University of Cambridge' http://www.archive.org/stream/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft_djvu.txt "The theory, at the stage at which it was left by Maxwell, being a theory of complete electric circuits, the total current was a continuous streaming flow ; there proved to be no necessity, in the case of systems at rest, for keeping distinct the current of conduction, the current arising from changing electric polarization in a dielectric substance, and the displacement current belonging to free aether apart from matter altogether: the only hypothesis he required was that there is an aethereal current of such amount as to complete into a single circuital stream all the types of true electric flux which are associated with matter. These distinctions however become essential as soon as the theory is to take cognizance of the motion of the matter, especially in the domain of radiation where a mere equilibrium theory, contemplating the convection unaltered of its electric field along with the matter, is not a valid approximation. Then convection, relative to the aether, of electric charge and of dielectric polarization, contributes to the total current, as well as the change of aethereal elastic displacement and of material polarization. The problem thus presents itself in the form of two media, the aether and the matter, each with its own motion, but both occupying the same space ; and some idea has to be formed of the interconnexions by which they influence each other." 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement.
From: BURT on 28 Apr 2010 22:22
On Apr 28, 5:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 28, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light? > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > Light propagates with respect to the aether. > > > > > By what energy? > > > > Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The > > > displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light > > > wave. > > > Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese? > > What frequency is the aether? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > 'Aether and matter; a development of the dynamical relations of the > aether to material systems on the basis of the atomic constitution of > matter including a discussion of the influence of the earth's motion > on optical phenomena, being an Adams prize essay in the University of > Cambridge'http://www.archive.org/stream/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft/aethermatter... > > "The theory, at the stage at which it was left by Maxwell, being a > theory of complete electric circuits, the total current was a > continuous streaming flow ; there proved to be no necessity, in the > case of systems at rest, for keeping distinct the current of > conduction, the current arising from changing electric polarization in > a dielectric substance, and the displacement current belonging to free > aether apart from matter altogether: the only hypothesis he required > was that there is an aethereal current of such amount as to complete > into a single circuital stream all the types of true electric flux > which are associated with matter. These distinctions however become > essential as soon as the theory is to take cognizance of the motion of > the matter, especially in the domain of radiation where a mere > equilibrium theory, contemplating the convection unaltered of its > electric field along with the matter, is not a valid approximation. > Then convection, relative to the aether, of electric charge and of > dielectric polarization, contributes to the total current, as well as > the change of aethereal elastic displacement and of material > polarization. The problem thus presents itself in the form of two > media, the aether and the matter, each with its own motion, but both > occupying the same space ; and some idea has to be formed of the > interconnexions by which they influence each other." > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity > by > Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > aether's state of displacement.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Energy in mass comes from the square of the universal speed limit. Mitch Raemsch |