From: Nick Naym on
In article
michelle-228DAC.18583610082010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.exampl
e.com, Michelle Steiner at michelle(a)michelle.org wrote on 8/10/10 9:58 PM:

> In article <jollyroger-8178C6.19282910082010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>> More than that: Such self-righteous, holier-than-thou bullshit is downright
>>> _dangerous_ (can you say "The Crusades?"), and the cause of most human
>>> misery (IMNSHO).
>>
>> I whole-heartedly agree, but it is still silly. : )
>
> Just remember that there's only a one-stroke difference between "Rapist"
> and "Papist".
>
> No offense intended to any Papists or Rapists out there.


If an offended Rapist were to complain of receiving a Bum Rap, would an
equally offended Papist complain of receiving a Pap Smear?

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 08-10-2010 21:58, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> Just remember that there's only a one-stroke difference between "Rapist"
> and "Papist".

And one key makes the difference between the rapist and therapist.

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From: John Varela on
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:02:35 UTC, Nick Naym
<nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> More than that: Such self-righteous, holier-than-thou bullshit is downright
> _dangerous_ (can you say "The Crusades?"), and the cause of most human
> misery (IMNSHO).

The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were
trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those
or any other times. (If you don't think that's so, then you must
think we should have left the Germans in France and the Japanese in
the Philippines.) If you want to cite someone for starting the
religious wars between Christians and Muslims, cite the jihadists,
or Mohammed himself, not the Crusaders.

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote:
> The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were
> trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those

One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows
stand on two feet and learn to type. Certainly many Jews
might claim that the Muslims had conquered _Jewish_ lands
and the Crusaders were _not_ trying to help the Jews get them back.

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Wes Groleau

The man who says, "I can do it!" may sometimes fail.
The man who says, "Impossible!" will never succeed.
From: Nick Naym on
In article i3v5nc$b3a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Wes Groleau at
Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org wrote on 8/11/10 5:46 PM:

> On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote:
>> The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were
>> trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those
>
> One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows
> stand on two feet and learn to type. Certainly many Jews
> might claim that the Muslims had conquered _Jewish_ lands
> and the Crusaders were _not_ trying to help the Jews get them back.



None of that is relevant to the point: Waging war, torturing people, burning
folks at the stake, etc., etc., all in the name of one's religion --
compounded by the absolute refusal to look at the facts or evidence to the
contrary (remember Galileo?) -- is the point.


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