From: Doug Anderson on
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> writes:

> On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote:
> > The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were
> > trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those
>
> One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows
> stand on two feet and learn to type.

At which point the cows would no doubt claim the land was originally
bovine.

From: Jolly Roger on
In article <C8889445.62419%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> In article i3v5nc$b3a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Wes Groleau at
> Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org wrote on 8/11/10 5:46 PM:
>
> > On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote:
> >> The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were
> >> trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those
> >
> > One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows
> > stand on two feet and learn to type. Certainly many Jews
> > might claim that the Muslims had conquered _Jewish_ lands
> > and the Crusaders were _not_ trying to help the Jews get them back.
>
>
>
> None of that is relevant to the point: Waging war, torturing people, burning
> folks at the stake, etc., etc., all in the name of one's religion --
> compounded by the absolute refusal to look at the facts or evidence to the
> contrary (remember Galileo?) -- is the point.

Oh come on, Nick. Everyone knows it's ok to murder, torture, and maim
others as long as you do it in the name of the one true God.

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From: Steve Hix on
In article <i3v5nc$b3a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote:
> > The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were
> > trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those
>
> One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows
> stand on two feet and learn to type. Certainly many Jews
> might claim that the Muslims had conquered _Jewish_ lands
> and the Crusaders were _not_ trying to help the Jews get them back.

Except that it was more than just Judea/Palestine that the Moslems had conquered,
it included wide areas that had been largely Christian for several centuries.

Jewish territory was only a small part of the package.
From: John McWilliams on
Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <jollyroger-A635D2.18011511082010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Come on, Nick. Everyone knows it's ok to murder, torture, and maim
>> others as long as you do it in the name of the one true God.
>
> But only if it's your one true god, and not someone else's one true god.
>
So, you guys ratting all over multi-theists??

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <i3vq8d$5q7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article <jollyroger-A635D2.18011511082010(a)news.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Come on, Nick. Everyone knows it's ok to murder, torture, and maim
> >> others as long as you do it in the name of the one true God.
> >
> > But only if it's your one true god, and not someone else's one true god.
> >
> So, you guys ratting all over multi-theists??

Nah, just all theists in general.

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