From: Doug Anderson on 11 Aug 2010 18:00 Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> writes: > On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote: > > The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were > > trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those > > One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows > stand on two feet and learn to type. At which point the cows would no doubt claim the land was originally bovine.
From: Jolly Roger on 11 Aug 2010 19:01 In article <C8889445.62419%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > In article i3v5nc$b3a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Wes Groleau at > Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org wrote on 8/11/10 5:46 PM: > > > On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote: > >> The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were > >> trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those > > > > One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows > > stand on two feet and learn to type. Certainly many Jews > > might claim that the Muslims had conquered _Jewish_ lands > > and the Crusaders were _not_ trying to help the Jews get them back. > > > > None of that is relevant to the point: Waging war, torturing people, burning > folks at the stake, etc., etc., all in the name of one's religion -- > compounded by the absolute refusal to look at the facts or evidence to the > contrary (remember Galileo?) -- is the point. Oh come on, Nick. Everyone knows it's ok to murder, torture, and maim others as long as you do it in the name of the one true God. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Steve Hix on 11 Aug 2010 20:01 In article <i3v5nc$b3a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 08-11-2010 16:50, John Varela wrote: > > The Muslims had conquered Christian lands and the Crusaders were > > trying to take them back. Perfectly normal by the standards of those > > One could argue _whose_ lands they were until the cows > stand on two feet and learn to type. Certainly many Jews > might claim that the Muslims had conquered _Jewish_ lands > and the Crusaders were _not_ trying to help the Jews get them back. Except that it was more than just Judea/Palestine that the Moslems had conquered, it included wide areas that had been largely Christian for several centuries. Jewish territory was only a small part of the package.
From: John McWilliams on 11 Aug 2010 23:36 Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <jollyroger-A635D2.18011511082010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > >> Come on, Nick. Everyone knows it's ok to murder, torture, and maim >> others as long as you do it in the name of the one true God. > > But only if it's your one true god, and not someone else's one true god. > So, you guys ratting all over multi-theists?? -- john mcwilliams
From: Jolly Roger on 12 Aug 2010 09:05
In article <i3vq8d$5q7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Michelle Steiner wrote: > > In article <jollyroger-A635D2.18011511082010(a)news.individual.net>, > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > >> Come on, Nick. Everyone knows it's ok to murder, torture, and maim > >> others as long as you do it in the name of the one true God. > > > > But only if it's your one true god, and not someone else's one true god. > > > So, you guys ratting all over multi-theists?? Nah, just all theists in general. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |