From: John Pollard on
Andrew wrote:
> John Pollard wrote:

>> I believe I read there might be a glitch with the Q2010 opening
>> sound, and ... something like Vista, or Win 7. Forgot the details,
>> but I think the last I read, an Intuit developer was going to look
>> into it.

> I do have the 'ca-ching' on XP when entering transactions, but no
> sound on Q 2010 startup when the splash screen occurs.

> But there is
> a thread going on in the Quicken community forum dealing with this
> issue that others also have reported - all the local settings are
> correct in these cases; Q 2010 might have a start up bug.

That's probably the discussion I was thinking of; there was at least one
post from Intuit in the thread I have in mind ... but nothing conclusive.

If I recall, Intuit intentionally did something to the opening sound for
Q2010, though not expecting to prevent it from working at all.

--

John Pollard


From: R. C. White on
Hi, Ken.

I've been actually working with it for less than an hour, so these are only
first impressions.

I think I'm going to like Quicken 2010 Deluxe. Overall, it seems just like
all the other annual upgrades. Just another few steps up the learning
curve.

It took some tweaking of the Preferences to get back to something like the
2009 appearance that seemed very good to me, and I still haven't figured out
a couple of things. I got the Account Bar to show cents. I even found out
how to "Dock" the side bar ("Dock Side Bar (for wide screens only)");
apparently my 1280 x 1024 LCD screen qualifies as "wide screen", even though
it is only 17". But I haven't yet found how to narrow down that side bar;
it's about 3" wide, which is about double what it needs to be, cutting into
the Register width. This is the right-hand "To Do" bar that holds just a
few items, including - for me - just One Step Update and the Show Reminders
button. I can adjust the width of the Accounts Bar, but not this Side Bar.

Most of these are just the personal preferences; what bugs me will thrill
you - and vice versa.

But a few "features" worry me. The all-inclusive QDF file is a great idea -
AND a terrible idea! I'll reserve judgment on this for a while, but I'm
just a bit dubious about putting all the eggs in one basket. But it does
simplify explaining to Quicken newbies that they must remember to move ALL
the related files when using non-Quicken tools to manage the "fileset".

The new Backup scheme will take some getting used to. Since the 1990's,
when hard disks were much less reliable, I still habitually make several
successive backups every day - after every batch of new entries, every One
Step Update, and often in between. This is not really necessary anymore,
but I still do it. I installed Q10 just this morning at about 9:30. My
BACKUP subfolder has just one automatic backup (at 9:33 am today), but my
manual backup folder already has "QDATA-4.QDF-backup", saved at 3:12 pm,
along with the earlier original, plus -1, -2 and -3. At 45 MB per file,
this could fill up even today's large hard drive pretty quickly! As I've
said before; there is a big difference between archives, which might need to
be available next year or 20 years from now, and backups, which typically
are useful only until the integrity of the current file is assured. My -1
backup is already obsolete, because it has been superseded by -2, which is
similarly useless, since I now have -3 and -4. :>(

OK. That's enough for now. Let's reserve further comments until I've lived
with it for a while. It's just about time for my FIRST One Step Update to
get today's stock quotes and transactions.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc(a)grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)

"Ken Blake" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:1tmrd5d0vs073ch6ablqf1dv6n595v9ojq(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0500, "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Gary.
>>
>> Well, I bought Q2010 Deluxe yesterday and installed it this morning.
>
>
> So, RC, leaving aside any issues with sounds, what do you think of it?
> What changes do you see? Like them? Dislike them?
>
> Your comments would be appreciated.
>
>
>> Like
>> you, Andrew and others, I have the other Quicken sounds, but no sound on
>> opening the program itself.
>>
>> I didn't even have to use my QSounds.reg file this time. I'm running
>> Win7
>> x64 as an Administrator and it did prompt for credentials before running
>> Quicken's Setup (DemoShield). I upgraded from Q2009, so maybe it picked
>> up
>> my Sounds settings from there, but Win7's Control Panel | Sound | Sounds
>> has
>> the Quicken entries, with no special action on my part. Also, the
>> Registry
>> includes the proper settings in the HKCU\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\Quicken
>> key.
>>
>> As you said, the qopen.wav sound plays fine from the Control Panel's Test
>> button, but not when Quicken starts. This glitch in the program is
>> curious,
>> but far from fatal. If we don't find anything worse than this, I'll be
>> very
>> happy! ;<)
>>
>> John Pollard reports that Intuit apparently knows about this glitch and
>> is
>> working on it.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Gary B. Berns" <gberns(a)tampabay.r*r.com> wrote in message
>> news:omspd51egvk3s2l1abu9msv11afkug7nre(a)4ax.com...
>> > The open program has the right file listed and a speaker next to it
>> > showing it's activated in Vista.
>> >
>> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:31:13 -0400, "Laura" <invalid(a)sample.invalid>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>What do you see when you go into Control Panel>>Sounds? Mine show all
>> >>of
>> >>the
>> >>quicken sounds that are available. I see 7 sounds enabled in windows
>> >>including qopen.wav for open program.
>> >>
>> > -----------------------------------------------
>> > Gary
>> > .
>
> --
> Ken Blake

From: Ken Blake on
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:22:14 -0500, "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net>
wrote:

> Hi, Ken.
>
> I've been actually working with it for less than an hour, so these are only
> first impressions.


Thanks, RC. Your first impressions are appreciated, but I'll be
patient and await your later impressions when you know more about it.



> I think I'm going to like Quicken 2010 Deluxe. Overall, it seems just like
> all the other annual upgrades. Just another few steps up the learning
> curve.
>
> It took some tweaking of the Preferences to get back to something like the
> 2009 appearance that seemed very good to me, and I still haven't figured out
> a couple of things. I got the Account Bar to show cents. I even found out
> how to "Dock" the side bar ("Dock Side Bar (for wide screens only)");
> apparently my 1280 x 1024 LCD screen qualifies as "wide screen", even though
> it is only 17". But I haven't yet found how to narrow down that side bar;
> it's about 3" wide, which is about double what it needs to be, cutting into
> the Register width. This is the right-hand "To Do" bar that holds just a
> few items, including - for me - just One Step Update and the Show Reminders
> button. I can adjust the width of the Accounts Bar, but not this Side Bar.
>
> Most of these are just the personal preferences; what bugs me will thrill
> you - and vice versa.
>
> But a few "features" worry me. The all-inclusive QDF file is a great idea -
> AND a terrible idea! I'll reserve judgment on this for a while, but I'm
> just a bit dubious about putting all the eggs in one basket. But it does
> simplify explaining to Quicken newbies that they must remember to move ALL
> the related files when using non-Quicken tools to manage the "fileset".
>
> The new Backup scheme will take some getting used to. Since the 1990's,
> when hard disks were much less reliable, I still habitually make several
> successive backups every day - after every batch of new entries, every One
> Step Update, and often in between. This is not really necessary anymore,
> but I still do it. I installed Q10 just this morning at about 9:30. My
> BACKUP subfolder has just one automatic backup (at 9:33 am today), but my
> manual backup folder already has "QDATA-4.QDF-backup", saved at 3:12 pm,
> along with the earlier original, plus -1, -2 and -3. At 45 MB per file,
> this could fill up even today's large hard drive pretty quickly! As I've
> said before; there is a big difference between archives, which might need to
> be available next year or 20 years from now, and backups, which typically
> are useful only until the integrity of the current file is assured. My -1
> backup is already obsolete, because it has been superseded by -2, which is
> similarly useless, since I now have -3 and -4. :>(
>
> OK. That's enough for now. Let's reserve further comments until I've lived
> with it for a while. It's just about time for my FIRST One Step Update to
> get today's stock quotes and transactions.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
> rc(a)grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)
>
> "Ken Blake" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:1tmrd5d0vs073ch6ablqf1dv6n595v9ojq(a)4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0500, "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, Gary.
> >>
> >> Well, I bought Q2010 Deluxe yesterday and installed it this morning.
> >
> >
> > So, RC, leaving aside any issues with sounds, what do you think of it?
> > What changes do you see? Like them? Dislike them?
> >
> > Your comments would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >> Like
> >> you, Andrew and others, I have the other Quicken sounds, but no sound on
> >> opening the program itself.
> >>
> >> I didn't even have to use my QSounds.reg file this time. I'm running
> >> Win7
> >> x64 as an Administrator and it did prompt for credentials before running
> >> Quicken's Setup (DemoShield). I upgraded from Q2009, so maybe it picked
> >> up
> >> my Sounds settings from there, but Win7's Control Panel | Sound | Sounds
> >> has
> >> the Quicken entries, with no special action on my part. Also, the
> >> Registry
> >> includes the proper settings in the HKCU\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\Quicken
> >> key.
> >>
> >> As you said, the qopen.wav sound plays fine from the Control Panel's Test
> >> button, but not when Quicken starts. This glitch in the program is
> >> curious,
> >> but far from fatal. If we don't find anything worse than this, I'll be
> >> very
> >> happy! ;<)
> >>
> >> John Pollard reports that Intuit apparently knows about this glitch and
> >> is
> >> working on it.
> >>
> >> RC
> >>
> >> "Gary B. Berns" <gberns(a)tampabay.r*r.com> wrote in message
> >> news:omspd51egvk3s2l1abu9msv11afkug7nre(a)4ax.com...
> >> > The open program has the right file listed and a speaker next to it
> >> > showing it's activated in Vista.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:31:13 -0400, "Laura" <invalid(a)sample.invalid>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>What do you see when you go into Control Panel>>Sounds? Mine show all
> >> >>of
> >> >>the
> >> >>quicken sounds that are available. I see 7 sounds enabled in windows
> >> >>including qopen.wav for open program.
> >> >>
> >> > -----------------------------------------------
> >> > Gary
> >> > .
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake

--
Ken Blake
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From: Andrew on
John Pollard wrote:
>>
> That's probably the discussion I was thinking of; there was at least
> one post from Intuit in the thread I have in mind ...

Hi John - The Intuit poster (Quick Dale, I think this link should work :
https://qlc.intuit.com/post/show_post_full_view/aYHAhWTNqr3Q6nacfArQA8)
explained to go to the Control Panel/Sounds and do the usual checking off of
the settings to 'fix' the reported problem - but that was already done and
set up correctly in the initial installation as reported by the others.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew


From: Andrew on
R. C. White wrote:
>
> The new Backup scheme will take some getting used to. ...

The naming convention whereby you ask to append the date is also different
and the naming is bizarre as they're no longer in a named sequence. Example:

For Q2009, For a file named 'Andrew', a couple of backups with that option
would look like:
Andrew_20090703.QDF (plus the other in the fileset).. (no matter how many
times one backups up on the 3rd date of July, you'll end up with just one
fileset).
Andrew_20090704.QDF (plus the others in the fileset) and so -on.
Like you, I am accustomed to backing up several times a day, and it would
only place one entry in since the same filename was used for each day no
matter how many backups one used.

With Q2010, the naming convention for multiple times in *one* day now look
like (Assuming you backed up three times in one day):
Andrew-18Oct2009-1.QDF-backup (this is the second backup)
Andrew-18Oct2009-2.QDF-backup (this is the third backup)
Andrew-18Oct2009.QDF-backup (this was the original backup)

for just one day's use with three manual backups. And they don't even
collate correctly in alphabetical order! I am afraid of what will happen
when Dec comes up which is earlier in the alphabet that Oct and Nov! All
the months will be jumbled up if you sort by name now. Well, one can click
on the date field column heading. I used to do manual deletes and keep just
the last few months worth of files for safety - as R.C. says, I'll have a
LOT more, and I think they won't be so easy to manage.
-----------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew


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