From: The dog from that film you saw on 10 Jan 2010 07:28 "Robin" <robsong(a)byebye.com> wrote in message news:eu7jk5hsfo9ll5ou21qtss6rvufvdaltuh(a)4ax.com... > Thanks for that. Yes I am aware, though that would be a logistical > nightmare with my urchins, it's as much as I can do to work the tv > remote let alone their phones lol Not only that but it makes it seem > like really cheating on them to go to those lengths, even though it's > only out of concern for them. so tell them that are going to do it? - surely you wouldn't allow them to say no. -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com you fight better when you have a bear!
From: Denis McMahon on 10 Jan 2010 07:32 Robin wrote: > Thanks but I was looking for something that did not tell them we were > checking up on them. Tracking off of a cell tower gives you the antenna and timing offset, the timing offset translates into a range +- x, and the sector could be anything from 5 degrees to 360 degrees. Real time tracking off of the cellular network data isn't publicly available in the UK. It may be possible, but I'm pretty sure that even the Police don't get routine access to such information to eg the extent portrayed in police dramas. Spooky people that I don't want to meet might have access to it, I have no idea. The only publicly available phone-based tracking solutions seem to rely on a GPS equipped (or otherwise location determining) smartphone sending it's own location back to a server. As has been pointed out, such things are easy to disable by the phone user. Rgds Denis McMahon
From: Bob Eager on 10 Jan 2010 07:41 On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:32:41 +0000, Denis McMahon wrote: > The only publicly available phone-based tracking solutions seem to rely > on a GPS equipped (or otherwise location determining) smartphone sending > it's own location back to a server. As has been pointed out, such things > are easy to disable by the phone user. I registered for Google Latitude yesterday, to try it out. The phone has no GPS, but it fairly accurately (within a mile or so) located my phone. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
From: Chris Blunt on 10 Jan 2010 07:54 On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 21:50:45 +0000, tony sayer <tony(a)bancom.co.uk> wrote: >In article <e63hk5hn8praoek7ok11ja42pt8j5lnti3(a)4ax.com>, Robin ><robsong(a)byebye.com> scribeth thus >>I'd like to keep an eye on my three kids now and again. You know make >>sure they are going where they said, or staying over with who they >>said etc. Tacky I know but peace of mind over their safety is >>paramount. >> >>Any services that actually work well? I see lots advertise it but they >>sound like scams most of them. >> >>Thanks > >Www.followus.co.uk works quite well. Doesn't use GPS but can be used on >most all phones except the 3 network. Uses the timing signals between >base stations. Not as accurate as GPS but more often than not GPS is >sodded up inside buildings. Accuracy is generally around 2 to 3 hundred >metres sufficient for some applications..... Despite some of the nonsense that appears in the media, trying to use GPS to track someone covertly is a complete non-starter. As anyone who has ever used GPS on a mobile knows, you have to make a positive effort to make sure your phone is well positioned to give the GPS receiver a clear view of as much of the sky as possible. That normally means walking with the phone open and held in front of you, or positioned in a open area in a vehicle. Even with a best effort, you're lucky if you can maintain a fix on the receiver all the time. Someone who was unaware that a GPS application was running on the phone would most likely put it away in a pocket, a bag, or some safe place where the GPS fix would be lost immediately. Chris
From: Denis McMahon on 10 Jan 2010 08:17 Denis McMahon wrote: > Real time tracking off of the cellular network data isn't publicly > available in the UK. It may be possible, but I'm pretty sure that even > the Police don't get routine access to such information to eg the extent > portrayed in police dramas. Spooky people that I don't want to meet > might have access to it, I have no idea. > > The only publicly available phone-based tracking solutions seem to rely > on a GPS equipped (or otherwise location determining) smartphone sending > it's own location back to a server. As has been pointed out, such things > are easy to disable by the phone user. I take those 2 paragraphs back. It seems that, provided the phone has been opted in to such a tracking system, they are now available to all and sundry. Rgds Denis McMahon
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