From: dorayme on
Tiger, G4 QS Powermac. Two screens, single desktop. *Never* for
computer to sleep but 20 mins set for display sleep in Energy
saver panel. Screensaver set to come on after 6 mins. A Dell and
a 24" LG (W2452). Both the Dell and the LG run at their native
resolutions.

The Dell is always quick to wake on mouse movement or keyboard
press, the LG always slower but too often failing altogether to
wake from monitor sleep and I have to switch the power on and off
to it to trigger it back on via the mains at the wall, (the power
on the monitor frame is unresponsive in this situation).

Any similar experience and ideas on how to fix?

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dorayme
From: JF Mezei on
dorayme wrote:

> The Dell is always quick to wake on mouse movement or keyboard
> press, the LG always slower but too often failing altogether to
> wake from monitor sleep and I have to switch the power on and off

I have the opposite problem. There are times when the computer goes to
sleep and only turns off one of the 2 monitors. First one stays lighted
up. When I mouse mouse, it goes dark, and then both turn back on. This
is on a Macpro with DVI connected NEC monitors.
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

dorayme wrote:
> Tiger, G4 QS Powermac. Two screens, single desktop. *Never* for
> computer to sleep but 20 mins set for display sleep in Energy
> saver panel. Screensaver set to come on after 6 mins. A Dell and
> a 24" LG (W2452). Both the Dell and the LG run at their native
> resolutions.
>
> The Dell is always quick to wake on mouse movement or keyboard
> press, the LG always slower but too often failing altogether to
> wake from monitor sleep and I have to switch the power on and off
> to it to trigger it back on via the mains at the wall, (the power
> on the monitor frame is unresponsive in this situation).
>
> Any similar experience and ideas on how to fix?

Yes! - I've now sent my 28" ViewSonic to the factory with a near similar
problem, while my other ViewSonic reacts like a dream. The techbuy said
that it probably is the PSU in the monitor or the electronically
handling that fails, so it might be something similar on your machine.

But before deciding anyting... Which graphics card are you using - the
std. GForce 2MX/32mb or the larger 4MX/64mb? - Radeon 9000Pro/32mb /
9000Pro/64mb? - 2x DVI connection or DVI+VGA? - and which one is
connected then to the VGA (if VGA is used)? - OR - worst case - are you
using a Radeon 9200 PCI card for the one monitor?

I presume that you are aware of the 'deep sleep' problem on the G4s...,
but if you have an extra PCI graphics card, I'll guarantee you that this
is the problem.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: dorayme on
In article <4c00133e$0$4805$ba624c82(a)nntp02.dk.telia.net>,
Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > Tiger, G4 QS Powermac. Two screens, single desktop. *Never* for
> > computer to sleep but 20 mins set for display sleep in Energy
> > saver panel. Screensaver set to come on after 6 mins. A Dell and
> > a 24" LG (W2452). Both the Dell and the LG run at their native
> > resolutions.
> >
> > The Dell is always quick to wake on mouse movement or keyboard
> > press, the LG always slower but too often failing altogether to
> > wake from monitor sleep and I have to switch the power on and off
> > to it to trigger it back on via the mains at the wall, (the power
> > on the monitor frame is unresponsive in this situation).
> >
> > Any similar experience and ideas on how to fix?
>
> Yes! - I've now sent my 28" ViewSonic to the factory with a near similar
> problem, while my other ViewSonic reacts like a dream. The techbuy said
> that it probably is the PSU in the monitor or the electronically
> handling that fails, so it might be something similar on your machine.

I rather suspect the energy saving software built into the LG.
Not keen to suffer the inconvenience of doing without it to
return it on guarantee but I can return it when it is convenient
in a couple of years maybe... I have the mains power to it handy
on the desk, that kicks it into action.
>
> But before deciding anyting... Which graphics card are you using...

ATI Radeon 9800 Pro:

Chipset Model: ATY,R350
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 128 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4e48
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A07525-130
Displays:
W2452:
Resolution: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
DELL SP1908FP:
Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported

I have another card in there not being used at all

ATI VGA:

Chipset Model: ATY,RV100
Type: Display
Bus: PCI
Slot: SLOT-3
VRAM (Total): 64 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x5159
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-85501-208
Displays:
Display:
Status: No display connected
Display:
Status: No display connected


but I used to use it and I think I had the same problem with the
LG. I might try to confirm this by switching the LG to it. It is
a card I also used to have in my 7300 and 7600 to run a LCD
screens on 9.2. I think my QS 2002 came with the GForce 4MX/64mb,
(its in a box somewhere) and I ran it for years and years but it
won't do the res on the LG so i bought the Radeon 9800 Pro and
have been happy with it.

I have the feeling that this problem of not waking from screen
sleep is getting more regular. It does not always happen and I am
experimenting on where to leave the mouse cursor, the Dell or the
LG and other things to see if it affects it.

I should yank the unused display card out and see if this helps.
Doubt it!

> - the
> std. GForce 2MX/32mb or the larger 4MX/64mb? - Radeon 9000Pro/32mb /
> 9000Pro/64mb? - 2x DVI connection or DVI+VGA? - and which one is
> connected then to the VGA (if VGA is used)? - OR - worst case - are you
> using a Radeon 9200 PCI card for the one monitor?
>
> I presume that you are aware of the 'deep sleep' problem on the G4s...,

Is a cat aware of a mouse? It is the reason I never put the QS to
sleep ever (apart from turning it off now and then). I understand
that my USB 2 PCI Belkin card (good quality though it be) might
be responsible. Did you know, Erik, that there is a PhD course in
the vagaries of sleep on G4 Powermacs? You graduate as a Dr of
MacSleep.


> but if you have an extra PCI graphics card, I'll guarantee you that this
> is the problem.
>

What is the problem exactly?

> Cheers, Erik Richard

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dorayme
From: Priam on
On 05/28/2010 12:16 AM, JF Mezei wrote:
> dorayme wrote:
>
>> The Dell is always quick to wake on mouse movement or keyboard
>> press, the LG always slower but too often failing altogether to
>> wake from monitor sleep and I have to switch the power on and off
>
> I have the opposite problem. There are times when the computer goes to
> sleep and only turns off one of the 2 monitors. First one stays lighted
> up. When I mouse mouse, it goes dark, and then both turn back on. This
> is on a Macpro with DVI connected NEC monitors.

This is what you get for not buying Apple monitors.