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From: Dan C on 6 Jan 2010 10:42 On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:52:06 +0100, J G Miller wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:33:19 +0000, Dan C wrote: > >> Simple answer. Slackware. Rock solid stable. Nothing better. > > Do you have any opinions regarding Slackware derivatives, eg Frugalware, > Vector Linux etc? Not really. I have tried Vector a couple of times, but found nothing compelling about it. Certainly nothing that would make me want to change from the original Slackware. -- "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". "Bother!" said Pooh, as he wiped the vomit from his chin. Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
From: john on 6 Jan 2010 11:27 On Jan 5, 3:10 pm, Giorgos Tzampanakis <g...(a)hw.ac.uk> wrote: > I've tried linux twice, both with ubuntu, first time plain ubuntu > and later kubuntu. Both times my system was working fine until an > update broke it. Now, I understand limited hardware support in > linux, because it stems from the small market share. I am willing > to go out of my way to buy only linux-supported hardware. > > However, I *can't* stress this enough: I can't accept official > updates breaking a system. It's just horribly and undeniably > unacceptable. A user should not be afraid to update their system, > unless he's knowingly installing beta software or touching > something he shouldn't. > > So, since I still want to switch to linux, I want some > suggestions on which distribution is the most stable and most > well-tested. I don't care that much about cutting-edge features, > and I can wait for a while until a new version of some software > hits the official repositories. But this is important: When the > system asks to update itself, there shouldn't be a chance that it > will break X, or gnome, or KDE, or the kernel, or whatever. > > Suggestions? In general Slackware is always stable when released. Most packages are included in the original distro and may be behind the times. Slackware 13 however has KDE4 and QT 4. QT 4 enables some packages to run like the latest Scribus and disables some others, like Quanta and Kpdftool. And KDE4 is itself an abomination. So I run Slack 13, but with Xfce as the Gui. I also have a 12.1 partition just for Quanta and Kpdftool. There are no automatic updates. You are always in control. John Culleton
From: Giorgos Tzampanakis on 6 Jan 2010 12:35 "john(a)wexfordpress.com" <john(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote in news:c0a16364-6b73-44f1-a0cf-0c68ac9dd5d2 @g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com: > There are no automatic updates. You are always in control. What exactly does that mean? Do I need to check each package for new versions or simply to run a program (like apt-get in debian/ubuntu) that will do it for me? If so, this is akin to automatic updating.
From: John Hasler on 6 Jan 2010 13:39 john writes: > There are no automatic updates. Giorgos Tzampanakis writes: > What exactly does that mean? I think he means that updates do not occur without your knowledge or consent. With Debian you can, of course, install cron-apt and configure it to install new versions automatically, use your favorite package-manager front-end to upgrade all installed packages at once when you are ready, or use it to upgrade packages one at a time. -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
From: Robert Heller on 6 Jan 2010 14:17
At Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Giorgos Tzampanakis <gt67(a)hw.ac.uk> wrote: > > "john(a)wexfordpress.com" <john(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote in > news:c0a16364-6b73-44f1-a0cf-0c68ac9dd5d2 > @g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com: > > > There are no automatic updates. You are always in control. > > What exactly does that mean? Do I need to check each package for > new versions or simply to run a program (like apt-get in > debian/ubuntu) that will do it for me? If so, this is akin to > automatic updating. Slackware basically has no package management (or a really simple-minded one). There is not anything like apt-get or yum at all. You need to check each package *manually* for updates and you also need to *manually* deal with dependencies (basically you rebuild from source and re-install). Also, you cannot even try to update Slackware, you can only do an install. > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows heller(a)deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/ |