From: Dan C on
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:52:06 +0100, J G Miller wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:33:19 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>
>> Simple answer. Slackware. Rock solid stable. Nothing better.
>
> Do you have any opinions regarding Slackware derivatives, eg Frugalware,
> Vector Linux etc?

Not really. I have tried Vector a couple of times, but found nothing
compelling about it. Certainly nothing that would make me want to change
from the original Slackware.


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From: john on
On Jan 5, 3:10 pm, Giorgos Tzampanakis <g...(a)hw.ac.uk> wrote:
> I've tried linux twice, both with ubuntu, first time plain ubuntu
> and later kubuntu. Both times my system was working fine until an
> update broke it. Now, I understand limited hardware support in
> linux, because it stems from the small market share. I am willing
> to go out of my way to buy only linux-supported hardware.
>
> However, I *can't* stress this enough: I can't accept official
> updates breaking a system. It's just horribly and undeniably
> unacceptable. A user should not be afraid to update their system,
> unless he's knowingly installing beta software or touching
> something he shouldn't.
>
> So, since I still want to switch to linux, I want some
> suggestions on which distribution is the most stable and most
> well-tested. I don't care that much about cutting-edge features,
> and I can wait for a while until a new version of some software
> hits the official repositories. But this is important: When the
> system asks to update itself, there shouldn't be a chance that it
> will break X, or gnome, or KDE, or the kernel, or whatever.
>
> Suggestions?

In general Slackware is always stable when released. Most packages are
included in the original distro and may be behind the times.
Slackware 13 however has KDE4 and QT 4. QT 4 enables some packages to
run like the latest Scribus and disables some others, like Quanta and
Kpdftool. And KDE4 is itself an abomination. So I run Slack 13, but
with Xfce as the Gui. I also have a 12.1 partition
just for Quanta and Kpdftool.

There are no automatic updates. You are always in control.

John Culleton
From: Giorgos Tzampanakis on
"john(a)wexfordpress.com" <john(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote in
news:c0a16364-6b73-44f1-a0cf-0c68ac9dd5d2
@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

> There are no automatic updates. You are always in control.

What exactly does that mean? Do I need to check each package for
new versions or simply to run a program (like apt-get in
debian/ubuntu) that will do it for me? If so, this is akin to
automatic updating.
From: John Hasler on
john writes:
> There are no automatic updates.

Giorgos Tzampanakis writes:
> What exactly does that mean?

I think he means that updates do not occur without your knowledge or
consent. With Debian you can, of course, install cron-apt and configure
it to install new versions automatically, use your favorite
package-manager front-end to upgrade all installed packages at once when
you are ready, or use it to upgrade packages one at a time.

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From: Robert Heller on
At Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Giorgos Tzampanakis <gt67(a)hw.ac.uk> wrote:

>
> "john(a)wexfordpress.com" <john(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote in
> news:c0a16364-6b73-44f1-a0cf-0c68ac9dd5d2
> @g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
>
> > There are no automatic updates. You are always in control.
>
> What exactly does that mean? Do I need to check each package for
> new versions or simply to run a program (like apt-get in
> debian/ubuntu) that will do it for me? If so, this is akin to
> automatic updating.

Slackware basically has no package management (or a really
simple-minded one). There is not anything like apt-get or yum at all.
You need to check each package *manually* for updates and you also need
to *manually* deal with dependencies (basically you rebuild from source
and re-install). Also, you cannot even try to update Slackware, you can
only do an install.

>

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