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From: Wes Groleau on 14 Mar 2010 16:11
Jolly Roger wrote:
> It's what sets the iPhone apart of every other smart phone out there.
> And it's something a lot of competitors just don't get. The iPhone's

But now that they've seen it, some of them are getting closer.

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From: Jochem Huhmann on 14 Mar 2010 16:54
Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> writes:

> In article jollyroger-DEAA76.09384614032010(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger
> at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 3/14/10 10:38 AM:
>
>> As is said over and over, "It's the software, stupid". What changed the
>> game with the iPhone is the way Apple was able to successfully create an
>> immersive experience with the software. When you use the iPhone, nothing
>> stands in the way of just you and whatever application you are using.
>> It's what sets the iPhone apart of every other smart phone out there.
>> And it's something a lot of competitors just don't get. The iPhone's
>> multitouch technology combined with the way the software behaves has a
>> lot to do with the success of that immersion. The iPad will build on
>> that immersive experience, and that's one of the key things that will
>> make it successful.
>
> Define "immersive experience." ;)

I think it has something to do with the way the iPhone (and the iPod
touch and the iPad) really turns completely into whatever the current
app implements. You don't hold a device that runs an OS which has a user
interface in which there are windows with controls and some content area
which displays something. Instead you hold a photo or a book or a movie
in your hand. It almost feels like a solid slab made from a magic
substance that can turn into a photo or a book or whatever you like it
to be.

The technology behind all that is nothing you have to care for and if
you don't want to think about it you don't have to.

Jochem

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longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
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From: Jolly Roger on 14 Mar 2010 18:13
In article <m2aaua39pg.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net>
wrote:

> Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>
> > In article jollyroger-DEAA76.09384614032010(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger
> > at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 3/14/10 10:38 AM:
> >
> >> As is said over and over, "It's the software, stupid". What changed the
> >> game with the iPhone is the way Apple was able to successfully create an
> >> immersive experience with the software. When you use the iPhone, nothing
> >> stands in the way of just you and whatever application you are using.
> >> It's what sets the iPhone apart of every other smart phone out there.
> >> And it's something a lot of competitors just don't get. The iPhone's
> >> multitouch technology combined with the way the software behaves has a
> >> lot to do with the success of that immersion. The iPad will build on
> >> that immersive experience, and that's one of the key things that will
> >> make it successful.
> >
> > Define "immersive experience." ;)
>
> I think it has something to do with the way the iPhone (and the iPod
> touch and the iPad) really turns completely into whatever the current
> app implements. You don't hold a device that runs an OS which has a user
> interface in which there are windows with controls and some content area
> which displays something. Instead you hold a photo or a book or a movie
> in your hand. It almost feels like a solid slab made from a magic
> substance that can turn into a photo or a book or whatever you like it
> to be.
>
> The technology behind all that is nothing you have to care for and if
> you don't want to think about it you don't have to.

Well said.

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From: Jolly Roger on 14 Mar 2010 18:19
In article <hnjfth$pdl$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > It's what sets the iPhone apart of every other smart phone out there.
> > And it's something a lot of competitors just don't get. The iPhone's
>
> But now that they've seen it, some of them are getting closer.

Right, well without a true understanding of the underlying concept,
imitation is still just imitation, right?

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From: Nick Naym on 15 Mar 2010 10:13
In article hnjfth$pdl$2(a)news.eternal-september.org, Wes Groleau at
Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org wrote on 3/14/10 4:11 PM:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> It's what sets the iPhone apart of every other smart phone out there.
>> And it's something a lot of competitors just don't get. The iPhone's
>
> But now that they've seen it, some of them are getting closer.

They steal the idea and and superficially copy the design, but that's about
it. Changing the "look" of a device and throwing in some similar technology
won't do it -- it's like trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.


A PC pundit in one of the trade rags once said (I'm paraphrasing):

"The history of the personal computer industry is one of companies trying to
play catch-up with Apple."

(I wish I could recall the exact quote, who said it, and in which magazine.)


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