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From: krw on 29 Apr 2010 21:35 On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:16:30 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:33:03 -0700, "Joel Koltner" ><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Hi Jim, >> >>"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >>message news:2j4jt5hmu1i1j869kvaj58p5i24ubf6hmn(a)4ax.com... >>> mpm misses my point. Like most liberals he fails to notice that the >>> world is also populated by plumbers, electricians, machinists, >>> mechanics, etc., that don't need a "college" education... they need a >>> "trade school" education... and often these trades pay better than >>> what we "educated" people make. >> >>Agreed. I heard an article on the (radio) news yesterday about how paid >>apprenticeships are making a comeback for machinists -- there just aren't >>enough of them out there right now, and while schools still teach the basics, >>in many cases they haven't caught up to industry with respect to how much CAD >>and computer interfaces now play a daily role in most machinist's jobs. > >My father-in-law was a machinist, AND the most well-read person I've >ever known. He was always complaining that high school graduates >couldn't read a blueprint :-) My FIL was very well read too. He was a history teacher (and president of the NEA chapter, a couple of years), but was dangerous around tools; totally useless. I'd spend my vacations fixing up his house. ;-) >>Oddly, the article's started with off with something like, "no longer just an >>unthinking job, machnists have gone high tech." -- Whoever wrote that must >>not know many machnists, since if they did they'd know that being a good >>machinst has always required plenty of thinking. >> >>> I'm still learning. I don't ever expect to stop... except for that >>> final stop sign :-) >> >>The percentage of people your age who can claim to have put up their own web >>page is likely in the low single-digits... :-) >> >>---Joel > >Is that something difficult? And 70 isn't really old anymore. I see >people 20 years older than me still with their wits. My mother had her wits about her until about the last year. She was living by herself in an apartment (in a retirement home) until February of '08, when she moved in my brother and SIL. She died at 95 in December '08.
From: krw on 29 Apr 2010 21:41 On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:28:06 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:81fjt5tc50bapulqs7cn09palu4mqp5frm(a)4ax.com... >> My father-in-law was a machinist, AND the most well-read person I've >> ever known. He was always complaining that high school graduates >> couldn't read a blueprint :-) > >I find it amazing that there apparently are people out there who can't read a >*map*. SWMBO can't, at *all*. Her sense of direction is horrible, though it's understandable. She has zero spatial abilities at all. When we moved I bought her a GPS. She would have been *totally* lost in NE Ohio. > >[putting up a web site] >> Is that something difficult? > >Not at all -- putting up your own web page falls squarely into that category >of "not horribly deep/time-consuming/difficult" "continuous learning" that >might have been optional for you, but isn't as much for the current >generation -- at least if they want to remain employed. (But I think it's >clear you've benefitted from *choosing* to keep learning life-long as well.) Never bothered. >> And 70 isn't really old anymore. I see >> people 20 years older than me still with their wits. > >I think most people here are hoping you're around at least that much longer!
From: Joel Koltner on 29 Apr 2010 21:49 Hi Keith, <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message news:o9ckt5dalpjfj24atb2lg5euhoob849ps9(a)4ax.com... > Umm, not all BSEEs become hardware designers. Very few, in fact (which is a > good thing ;). That's certainly a good point -- which again raises the question of... did all those BSEEs who didn't become hardware designers really need four or five years of college? ---Joel
From: Jim Thompson on 29 Apr 2010 21:58 On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:49:01 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Hi Keith, > ><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message >news:o9ckt5dalpjfj24atb2lg5euhoob849ps9(a)4ax.com... >> Umm, not all BSEEs become hardware designers. Very few, in fact (which is a >> good thing ;). > >That's certainly a good point -- which again raises the question of... did all >those BSEEs who didn't become hardware designers really need four or five >years of college? > >---Joel I regularly made Dean's List at MIT, but I certainly wasn't in the top tier... those people went on to become "nobody's", either no productivity whatsoever, or they became professors ;-) Now-a-days Course VI, at MIT, is not called simply electrical engineering, it's called EECS (electrical engineering and computer science... to me a bit of an oxymoron :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: krw on 30 Apr 2010 00:05
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:49:01 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Hi Keith, > ><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message >news:o9ckt5dalpjfj24atb2lg5euhoob849ps9(a)4ax.com... >> Umm, not all BSEEs become hardware designers. Very few, in fact (which is a >> good thing ;). > >That's certainly a good point -- which again raises the question of... did all >those BSEEs who didn't become hardware designers really need four or five >years of college? There is *far* more to EE than hardware design. Less than 1/4 of the EEs at my CPoE are hardware designers. I'd guess that that number was even lower at my PPoE; more like 5%, perhaps even <1%. |