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From: alexd on 24 Feb 2010 17:02
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:29:33 -0800, SMS wrote:

> Dennis Ferguson wrote:

>> One can see why they'd want to find something more openly specified and
>> freely implementable to replace Flash.

> I'm rooting for Apple on this one. If the iPad becomes as popular as the
> iPhone, there will be a lot of pressure on web developers to detect the
> platform and serve up content with alternatives to Flash.

Let's hope HTML5 gets some traction and eliminates the need for Flash,
Silverlight, &c.

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From: tmoran on 25 Feb 2010 03:36
> > I can understand a particular program that implements the Flash protocol
> > might be buggy and crash, but that merely needs a better implementation.
>
> That's easier said than done. The Flash protocol is not fully
> public ... It is very hard not to depend on the software Adobe writes
> if you want Flash support.
And Adobe is unable or unwilling to fix their buggy program? They
prefer to just repeat "no it isn't buggy and doesn't crash" ? Or is
Adobe right, their implementation of Flash truly isn't buggy and doesn't
crash, and Jobs is just claiming what isn't true?
From: Warren Oates on 25 Feb 2010 08:32
In article <hm47md$h2t$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> Let's hope HTML5 gets some traction and eliminates the need for Flash,
> Silverlight, &c.

So you'd happily move to h264, which isn't free either? Flash isn't
going away soon, just because iSteve doesn't like it.
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From: Warren Oates on 25 Feb 2010 08:35
In article <hm5cpp$59r$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, tmoran(a)acm.org wrote:

> And Adobe is unable or unwilling to fix their buggy program? They
> prefer to just repeat "no it isn't buggy and doesn't crash" ? Or is
> Adobe right, their implementation of Flash truly isn't buggy and doesn't
> crash, and Jobs is just claiming what isn't true?

Apparently Flash won't work properly on touchscreens.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/02/20/an-adobe-flash-developer-on-why-the-ipad-cant-use-flash/

[all on one line that url should be]
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From: SMS on 25 Feb 2010 13:21
Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <hm47md$h2t$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Let's hope HTML5 gets some traction and eliminates the need for Flash,
>> Silverlight, &c.
>
> So you'd happily move to h264, which isn't free either? Flash isn't
> going away soon, just because iSteve doesn't like it.

Flash won't go away, but with the market share of the iPhone/iPod Touch,
and the expected success of the iPad, it would be rather foolish for web
developers to not deploy sites that will use Flash alternatives.

Flash uses a lot of processing power, which affects performance and
power consumption, something that you have to really be careful about on
platforms like the iPhone and the iPad. There are good reasons why Apple
is wary about Flash support on those devices.

Whatever you do, don't eat at iRestaurant near the Apple campus. It's
terrible.

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