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From: nospam on 25 Feb 2010 13:27
In article <4b86bfd3$0$1586$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS
<scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:

> Flash uses a lot of processing power, which affects performance and
> power consumption, something that you have to really be careful about on
> platforms like the iPhone and the iPad. There are good reasons why Apple
> is wary about Flash support on those devices.

there's a video of flash on the google nexus one, and you can see the
battery level indicator drop from one-half to one-quarter in 6 minutes.
From: Todd Allcock on 25 Feb 2010 13:41

"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:250220101327159530%nospam(a)nospam.invalid...
> In article <4b86bfd3$0$1586$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS
> <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Flash uses a lot of processing power, which affects performance and
>> power consumption, something that you have to really be careful about on
>> platforms like the iPhone and the iPad. There are good reasons why Apple
>> is wary about Flash support on those devices.
>
> there's a video of flash on the google nexus one, and you can see the
> battery level indicator drop from one-half to one-quarter in 6 minutes.

While I don't doubt flash can have a significant effect on battery life,
just how damning is that anecdotal drop on a device with a course 4-segment
battery display? For all you know, it only dropped 1 percentage point from
whatever the display considers "one-half" to "one-quarter;" e.g. from 38% to
37% (assuming the display uses 100, 75, 50, and 25 percent as center points
for the segments' range.)


From: nospam on 25 Feb 2010 13:57
In article <bvzhn.143797$OX4.23015(a)newsfe25.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> > there's a video of flash on the google nexus one, and you can see the
> > battery level indicator drop from one-half to one-quarter in 6 minutes.
>
> While I don't doubt flash can have a significant effect on battery life,
> just how damning is that anecdotal drop on a device with a course 4-segment
> battery display? For all you know, it only dropped 1 percentage point from
> whatever the display considers "one-half" to "one-quarter;" e.g. from 38% to
> 37% (assuming the display uses 100, 75, 50, and 25 percent as center points
> for the segments' range.)

true, it's not an exact guide, but it was nevertheless, fast.

judge for yourself. about 40 seconds into the video, the phone shows
3:59 pm and the battery level is at 1/2. it drops to 1/4 at 4:06 pm.

everything they showed could better be done as a native app, and
wouldn't need the internet to play either.

<http://vimeo.com/9596010>
From: Todd Allcock on 25 Feb 2010 16:47
At 25 Feb 2010 13:57:04 -0500 nospam wrote:
> In article <bvzhn.143797$OX4.23015(a)newsfe25.iad>, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
> > > there's a video of flash on the google nexus one, and you can see
the
> > > battery level indicator drop from one-half to one-quarter in 6
minutes.
> >
> > While I don't doubt flash can have a significant effect on battery
life,
> > just how damning is that anecdotal drop on a device with a course 4-
segment
> > battery display? For all you know, it only dropped 1 percentage
point from
> > whatever the display considers "one-half" to "one-quarter;" e.g. from
38% to
> > 37% (assuming the display uses 100, 75, 50, and 25 percent as center
points
> > for the segments' range.)
>
> true, it's not an exact guide, but it was nevertheless, fast.


Sure, but again, you don't know the underlying data. My phone's native
battery meter only has four segments, each which seem to disappear,
respectively, at 87%, 62%, 37% and 12%.

If 6 minutes of flash playing dropped my phone battery from 61% (two
segments, or "half") to 37% (one segment, or "a quarter") I'd be very
concerned. If it dropped from 38% (still two segments, or "half") to 37%
I could care less.

> judge for yourself. about 40 seconds into the video, the phone shows
> 3:59 pm and the battery level is at 1/2. it drops to 1/4 at 4:06 pm.


Again, "1/2" and "1/4" are menngless on such a coure indicator- was that
a 1% drop? 5%? 30%? We don't know.

> everything they showed could better be done as a native app, and
> wouldn't need the internet to play either.

True. Unfortunately you have to play the hand you're dealt. If I want to
watch, say, the last episode of "Lost" on Hulu, I need flash, at least
until Hulu decides to roll out an App For That(tm). I'm not a fan of
flash- I just want content. If that content is wrapped in flash, I need
flash, at least until that content is offered in an alternative form.


From: nospam on 25 Feb 2010 16:52
In article <8fChn.3630$mn6.1114(a)newsfe07.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> If I want to
> watch, say, the last episode of "Lost" on Hulu, I need flash, at least
> until Hulu decides to roll out an App For That(tm).

and they're reportedly doing just that

> I'm not a fan of
> flash- I just want content. If that content is wrapped in flash, I need
> flash, at least until that content is offered in an alternative form.

transitions sometimes are tough.
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