NEWS: iPhone anti-malware stuck in state of denial. Not needed, says Apple. Won't run, say developers.
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From: nospam on 2 Dec 2009 17:51 In article <hf6c9l$vad$4(a)posting2.glorb.com>, WindsorFox <windsor.fox.usenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > And *I* am not worried about it on Windows. That doesn't mean > everyone is that good. it doesn't matter how good you are, windows is an easy target, macs and iphones are not. here's one example: <http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090208/1333453687.shtml> First, Houston police have stopped arresting people with outstanding traffic warrants and shut down the municipal court system for a few days to try to deal with their computer systems being overrun by the virus. Then, across the Atlantic, the French Navy is dealing with a similar problem, forcing them to ground many of their fighter planes.
From: Todd Allcock on 3 Dec 2009 11:09 "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:021220091751261967%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... > on the iphone, everything is code signed & sandboxed. email attachments > are not executed, you can't download anything from a web page and > nothing has access to the operating system even if they did. Only in the Reality Distortion Field would any of those bullet points be considered "features!" ;)
From: Todd Allcock on 3 Dec 2009 15:07 "WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.fox.usenet(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:hf8t64$7k4$2(a)posting2.glorb.com... > nospam wrote: >> In article <hf6cbh$vad$5(a)posting2.glorb.com>, WindsorFox >> <windsor.fox.usenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> and how exactly can malware propagate on an iphone via email or a web >>>> site?? >>> The same way it does on any other connected device. >> >> nonsense. >> >> the operating system is entirely different, the holes aren't there and >> on the iphone, everything is code signed & sandboxed. email attachments >> are not executed, you can't download anything from a web page and >> nothing has access to the operating system even if they did. > > > Ehh-huh.... nospam is right. A phone, like the iPhone, that is intentionally unable to download any executable code from the web or email is pretty "safe" as connected devices go. No one seriously expects a SlingBox, for example, to get a virus, and it's a "connected device." It's safe because it doesn't download and execute code from the web. Well, neither does an iPhone, except in very limited "approved" circumstances! The sandboxing of apps even makes "stealth" code hard to execute (dressing up malware as a YouTube video, .jpeg photo, Word doc, etc.) since those files will only open in their pre-selected applications, will not launch other applications (like an installer!), and can't be saved to the device's OS' file structure. The biggest (non jailbroken) iPhone security threat seems to be, at least to me, a rogue application, like a game, that has personal data-stealing code built in that is disguised well enough to sneak by Apple's approval process and can lift user data an send it back to a server somewhere, but that possibility seems pretty remote to me, and probably wouldn't last long in the wild before someone figured it out, allowing Apple to finally test out the app "retrieval" process and wipe it from all iPhones OTA. I certainly pick on the iPhone enough for its designed limitations, but in this case, device security is the advantage reaped by some of those limitations. (Personally, I don't feel it's worth the tradeoff, but that's just my opinion. I'm sure others see it as an admirable tradeoff. Different strokes, etc.)
From: Larry on 3 Dec 2009 17:02 "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:hpRRm.34593 $Sw5.2840(a)newsfe16.iad: > you can't download anything from a web page This is true. So, why are iPhones so much "load" on the ATT system? What is Apple doing that sucks up so much data on a WAP phone?
From: nospam on 3 Dec 2009 17:41
In article <Xns9CD6AD62E5B0Cnoonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>, Larry <noone(a)home.com> wrote: > > you can't download anything from a web page > > This is true. So, why are iPhones so much "load" on the ATT system? What > is Apple doing that sucks up so much data on a WAP phone? it's not a wap phone, not by a long shot. |