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From: John Navas on 25 Nov 2009 10:54 The blaze of publicity that accompanied the release of the first iPhone worms this month has sparked interest in selling anti-malware products for the device. However no such security products currently exist and Apple shows little inclination in licensing any that do get developed. Antivirus products for Symbian smartphones have been available for years, but not one antivirus product is available for the iPhone, from any vendor. Releasing such tools would require the help of Apple, which tightly controls what applications are licensed to run on the devices via its successful AppStore marketplace. But since both the ikee (Rickrolling) and Duh worms affect only jailbroken iPhones (with SSH open and default passwords) the line from Apple is that there's no need for anti-malware for iPhones. MORE: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/25/iphone_anti_malware/> -- Best regards, John <http:/navasgroup.com> If the iPhone is really so impressive, why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
From: Kurt Ullman on 25 Nov 2009 13:26 In article <dmkqg5po1p78fahabtqigc768nam6dg4as(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > The blaze of publicity that accompanied the release of the first iPhone > worms this month has sparked interest in selling anti-malware products > for the device. However no such security products currently exist and > Apple shows little inclination in licensing any that do get developed. > > But since both the ikee (Rickrolling) and Duh worms affect only > jailbroken iPhones (with SSH open and default passwords) the line from > Apple is that there's no need for anti-malware for iPhones. > > MORE: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/25/iphone_anti_malware/> Let me get this straight. You are taking Apple to task because they are not saving people from themselves? I would agree from Apple's standpoint. They wanna screw with the phones, it is hardly Apple's responsibility to save them from their own idiocy. -- To find that place where the rats don't race and the phones don't ring at all. If once, you've slept on an island. Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an island"
From: nospam on 25 Nov 2009 13:28 In article <dmkqg5po1p78fahabtqigc768nam6dg4as(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > The blaze of publicity that accompanied the release of the first iPhone > worms this month has sparked interest in selling anti-malware products > for the device. However no such security products currently exist and > Apple shows little inclination in licensing any that do get developed. why would apple have an inclination for anti-malware software? out of the box, it's basically impossible for an iphone to have any malware. malware can only run on the iphone *if* the user jailbreaks their phone *and* installs ssh *and* leaves it open with the default password. none of that is supported by apple, and, apple has been continually making it more difficult to jailbreak. > Antivirus products for Symbian smartphones have been available for > years, admitting that a platform is open to attack and needing anti-virus software is not something about which to be proud. > but not one antivirus product is available for the iPhone, from > any vendor. Releasing such tools would require the help of Apple, which > tightly controls what applications are licensed to run on the devices > via its successful AppStore marketplace. which also means that the malware would require approval, so in effect, there is no problem unless the user jailbreaks the phone, which is something beyond apple's control. > But since both the ikee (Rickrolling) and Duh worms affect only > jailbroken iPhones (with SSH open and default passwords) the line from > Apple is that there's no need for anti-malware for iPhones. and apple is correct.
From: David Moyer on 26 Nov 2009 12:30 John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > Apple is that there's no need for anti-malware for iPhones. yes, there is never a need for that on iphones since all developers have signed contracts disallowing that type of behavior, they'd be liable and sued into oblivion. plus they are all unix based phones so nothing can spread unless a default password/username was known.
From: nospam on 1 Dec 2009 13:22
In article <hf3fv5$kd1$1(a)posting2.glorb.com>, WindsorFox <windsor.fox.usenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Someone said it's impossible to get malware on an iPhone, my question > was are you willing to bet everything you have on that belief? nothing is impossible so your question is basically a straw man. the point is that the risk of iphone malware is effectively zero because everything is codesigned and sandboxed. someone would have to find an exploit and then figure out how to turn it into something evil. not that simple. |