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From: Clark F Morris on 19 May 2010 10:53 On 18 May 2010 15:59:02 GMT, billg999(a)cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: >In article <q365v591ich9k49cpicdscpvrbvm47j259(a)4ax.com>, > Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> writes: >> >> ==== >> Moving into a bit of politics - my wife's reaction to illegal >> immigrants is "what part of illegal don't you understand". But I am >> of the strong opinion that people who say that are fooling themselves. >> History shows that when people get scared (the recession, 9/11), they >> try to grab their old life by blaming those with other cultures. It's >> not about "illegal", and they don't believe economists who say >> immigrants are a net economic gain, nor agencies that say 2/3 of the >> immigrants in the U.S. are here legally. > >while agree 100% with her assessment, I have a much bigger question >for everybody who is following this debate. > >Why is a Mexican who comes over the border immediately an illegal >while we have Canadians who spend more time in this country than >in their own and; >a) pay no taxes >b) keep their Canadian car registration (thus avoiding road taxes) even > though the time limit in every state I know if is 30-60 days before > re-registration is required >etc..... ARe they commuting to work? How do they pay no taxes? As a US citizen living in Canada and filing to both countries, I am intrigued. The rules for which country gets what are weird. > >bill >
From: Howard Brazee on 19 May 2010 11:35 On Wed, 19 May 2010 11:53:15 -0300, Clark F Morris <cfmpublic(a)ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: >>Why is a Mexican who comes over the border immediately an illegal >>while we have Canadians who spend more time in this country than >>in their own and; >>a) pay no taxes >>b) keep their Canadian car registration (thus avoiding road taxes) even >> though the time limit in every state I know if is 30-60 days before >> re-registration is required >>etc..... >ARe they commuting to work? How do they pay no taxes? As a US >citizen living in Canada and filing to both countries, I am intrigued. >The rules for which country gets what are weird. I was wondering the same thing. The Canadian citizen sitting next to me pays US & Colorado income tax, but he resides here. Some U.S. cities such as NYC and Denver have earnings taxes, so that suburbanites will pay taxes if they work in those cities. Of course we have states such as Texas that don't charge income tax. When I was in the USAF, I didn't pay income tax to my home state of Iowa, but residents of many states did - those guys wanted to be stationed in Texas so they could change their residency there - and keep it when they were stationed elsewhere. Lots of people like living on borders, paying sales tax in the cheapest country/state/county/city... -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Bill Gunshannon on 19 May 2010 11:46 In article <gnu7v51028tlmc5n4sv5ur9rbo5kmoo50e(a)4ax.com>, Clark F Morris <cfmpublic(a)ns.sympatico.ca> writes: > On 18 May 2010 15:59:02 GMT, billg999(a)cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) > wrote: > >>In article <q365v591ich9k49cpicdscpvrbvm47j259(a)4ax.com>, >> Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> writes: >>> >>> ==== >>> Moving into a bit of politics - my wife's reaction to illegal >>> immigrants is "what part of illegal don't you understand". But I am >>> of the strong opinion that people who say that are fooling themselves. >>> History shows that when people get scared (the recession, 9/11), they >>> try to grab their old life by blaming those with other cultures. It's >>> not about "illegal", and they don't believe economists who say >>> immigrants are a net economic gain, nor agencies that say 2/3 of the >>> immigrants in the U.S. are here legally. >> >>while agree 100% with her assessment, I have a much bigger question >>for everybody who is following this debate. >> >>Why is a Mexican who comes over the border immediately an illegal >>while we have Canadians who spend more time in this country than >>in their own and; >>a) pay no taxes >>b) keep their Canadian car registration (thus avoiding road taxes) even >> though the time limit in every state I know if is 30-60 days before >> re-registration is required >>etc..... > ARe they commuting to work? How do they pay no taxes? As a US > citizen living in Canada and filing to both countries, I am intrigued. > The rules for which country gets what are weird. They are called snowbirds. They live in Florida from Sept/Oct until Apr/May every year. If they work at all they get paid under the table. They have no Visa (and I don't mean the credit card). They have no Social Security Card. They drive cars with Canadian Registration. They are just as much if not more leeches than most Mexicans who are called "illegals". bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
From: Howard Brazee on 19 May 2010 12:01 On 19 May 2010 15:46:39 GMT, billg999(a)cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: >They are called snowbirds. They live in Florida from Sept/Oct until >Apr/May every year. If they work at all they get paid under the table. >They have no Visa (and I don't mean the credit card). They have no >Social Security Card. They drive cars with Canadian Registration. >They are just as much if not more leeches than most Mexicans who are >called "illegals". How are they leaches? They have pensions from their home but buy stuff in Florida, paying Florida sales & gasoline taxes. Sort of like long term tourists. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Kerry Liles on 19 May 2010 13:24
"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message news:vm28v595f7dlvsbqko8s9hk7j9tilg6254(a)4ax.com... > On 19 May 2010 15:46:39 GMT, billg999(a)cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) > wrote: > >>They are called snowbirds. They live in Florida from Sept/Oct until >>Apr/May every year. If they work at all they get paid under the table. >>They have no Visa (and I don't mean the credit card). They have no >>Social Security Card. They drive cars with Canadian Registration. >>They are just as much if not more leeches than most Mexicans who are >>called "illegals". > > How are they leaches? They have pensions from their home but buy > stuff in Florida, paying Florida sales & gasoline taxes. Sort of > like long term tourists. > Not to mention property taxes (or whatever) for all 12 months in both countries... |