Need a sound recorder, what should I get?
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From: PeterD on 12 Mar 2010 09:19 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:33:34 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy <macy(a)california.com> wrote: >On Mar 11, 5:08�am, PeterD <pet...(a)hipson.net> wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:46:53 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy >> >> <m...(a)california.com> wrote: >> >Need a sound recorder for recording noise intrusion from an adjacent >> >tenant. >> >> Why? A recording would prove nothing. You need to measure sound >> levels, not record the sounds. A sensitive microphone would pick up >> the smallest of sounds so there would be no way to determine that the >> neighbor's noise/sounds were a problem or not. As well, what does your >> lease say on noise, and his? If it is not covered, prepair for a long >> hard time. >> >> >Using Sony ICD-SX700 did not achieve very good results. >> >> >What should I use? >> >> I'd use the threat of moving out at the end of my lease. > >We have our TV on while this is going on, that makes a great reference >and/or talking and living normally as a comparison. > >Lease says "no tenant can operate a TV, Musical Device, of Computer >Sound System in a manner that disturbs another tenant" no hours of >operation, no arbitrary interpretation. That's why we moved in. So call the landlord, and let them deal with it. No recording is going to be worth a hill of beans, because you have no indication of the volume of the sound. A sound meter would work, but a recording is worth exactly nothing. > >I'm a firm believer in victims should not take action, perpetrators >should. Then what are you doing here? You are asking how to take action, and saying you don't think it is necessary. I'm confused. > >if our landlord cannot, or will not, provide quiet enjoyment, no >waiting for end of lease, they have failed, and now must pay for move >and all costs. Is that in the lease? Padwan, you have a lot to learn in this life.
From: Mark Zenier on 11 Mar 2010 23:51 In article <5ce869bd-d2d4-4eb5-a6bb-088e9a1a75f2(a)c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Robert Macy <macy(a)california.com> wrote: >Need a sound recorder for recording noise intrusion from an adjacent >tenant. > >Using Sony ICD-SX700 did not achieve very good results. > >What should I use? > Higher end digital sound recorders seem to not be a Buy More/office supply/Radio Shack type item. But I've seen them in the local electric guitar store's flyers. A bit pricier than the Sony, $150-$300 and more. Also probably a good place to get a better than average quality microphone. (Also, there's probably a store or two in any major metro area that specializes in pro and semi-pro video production equipment, maybe even rentals). Or maybe Radio Shack still sells their sound level meter, (or Frys, or one of the mail order electronic instrument outfits). Combine that with a video record what it sounds like during of the events. Mark Zenier mzenier(a)eskimo.com Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
From: Robert Macy on 12 Mar 2010 11:40 On Mar 11, 4:19 pm, b <reverend_rog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 11 mar, 17:33, Robert Macy <m...(a)california.com> wrote: > > > Lease says "no tenant can operate a TV, Musical Device, of Computer > > Sound System in a manner that disturbs another tenant" no hours of > > operation, no arbitrary interpretation. That's why we moved in. > > > I'm a firm believer in victims should not take action, perpetrators > > should. > > > if our landlord cannot, or will not, provide quiet enjoyment, no > > waiting for end of lease, they have failed, and now must pay for move > > and all costs. > > This all sounds a bit hasty to me. Have you actually tried > a) talking to those making the noise, who may not for all you know , > be fully aware of the nuisance they cause, and b) talking to the > landlord about it? > If so, what was their response(s)? > usually these things can be settled with quiet but firm words in the > right ear, rather than jumping to collecting 'evidence' and geting > into legal action. > Just my .02 worth > > -B Appreciate your approach, but all that has been already exhausted.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 12 Mar 2010 21:34 PeterD wrote: > > So call the landlord, and let them deal with it. No recording is going > to be worth a hill of beans, because you have no indication of the > volume of the sound. A sound meter would work, but a recording is > worth exactly nothing. A video & audio recording of the sound level meter would. One with a valid time stamp, or small 'Atomic Clock' next to the sound level meter would be even better. -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
From: Robert Macy on 12 Mar 2010 23:32
On Mar 12, 6:34 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > PeterD wrote: > > > So call the landlord, and let them deal with it. No recording is going > > to be worth a hill of beans, because you have no indication of the > > volume of the sound. A sound meter would work, but a recording is > > worth exactly nothing. > > A video & audio recording of the sound level meter would. One with a > valid time stamp, or small 'Atomic Clock' next to the sound level meter > would be even better. > > -- > Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!' Good ideas. Does the dBC spec follow sound pressure? Or, does it follow the Fletcher-Munson Curve? |