From: John Fields on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:24:10 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:24:43 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Given the number of UN positions attacked by the Israelis in the past, I
>> >expect a serious force to be able to return such fire.
>>
>> So you'd like for Israel to be defeated?
>
>How on earth did you jump to that idea ?

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Never mind; I'm waiting for an answer.

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on


John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <44D5F652.C24319B(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 6 Aug
> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
> >John Woodgate wrote:
> >
> >> In message <44D5AD14.62C34786(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 6 Aug
> >> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
> >>
> >> >I heard that the IEC1000-3-2 limit for Class D of 75W ( to be later
> >> >reduced to 50W ) was indirectly influenced by Philips.
> >>
> >> I would say not indirectly at all; but not by Philips alone. It's not a
> >> limit, it a boundary (or, better, 'bound').
> >> >
> >> >I hear it's to be fixed at 75W now btw.
> >>
> >> I wonder where you heard that.
> >
> >Somewhere on the net in an electronics forum - as in the thing about
> >'to be reduced to 50W' is to be scrapped in the next revision.
>
> Ah, well, that's true, as far as it goes. The original provision, '.. to
> be reduced to 50 W after four years' was contrary to IEC rules, but was
> allowed into the standard somehow until it was challenged. There was a
> possible opportunity to change the bound in 1999, but it was not taken
> up.

I don't recall the bit about four years. It was originally not given a stated
implementation date IIRC.

Graham

From: John Fields on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:20:02 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:


>The money has to come from *somewhere* ! It doesn't grow on trees.

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Of course it does.

Let's say that I build a house, that it costs me $100,000, and that
I sell it for $200,000.

Where do you think that $100,000 that I _made_ comes from?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Michael A. Terrell on
Eeyore wrote:
>
> Ken Smith wrote:
>
> > In article <44D4D316.2625E7AE(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>,
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > [....]
> > >The *concept* phase was funded by the participating companies. The *development*
> > >phase ( prior to production ) was paid for from government funds.
> >
> > Yes, and the companies did the concept phase only because they expected to
> > recover the money from the government when the contract was let.
>
> This is normal commercial behaviour.
>
> > Obviously, the money for that development was taken away from the tax
> > payers who could have used it for some other purpose and thus driven the
> > development of some consumer item.
>
> The money has to come from *somewhere* ! It doesn't grow on trees.
>
> Graham


Yes, it does. If you're in the paper products or produce business.
It would be damn hard to make money selling apples and other fruit
without growing them on trees. It would also be very hard to build
decent homes without lumber, which grows on trees, as well.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:38:00 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT(a)techie.com> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields
> ><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
> >>What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I
> >>guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let
> >>Israel die than to help her. Why is that?
> >>
> >
> >Possibly because in the long view Israel is rather insignificant,
> >except as a regional US puppy. What have they contributed to world
> >wealth and wisdom?
>
> ---
> Israel, lately,
>
> http://www.newsoftheday.com/

" Israelis invent hydrogen car that uses just a tank of water." ( first item on
the page )
http://www.newscientisttech.com/channel/tech/mg19125621.200.html

Neither new ( i.e. not an invention at all ) nor terribly useful.

Just saying.

Graham