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From: Eeyore on 6 Aug 2006 11:51 John Fields wrote: > On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 11:03:25 +0200, "Frank Bemelman" > <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote: > > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht > > >> --- > >> Do you want us to lose? > > > >No, just want the US to realize what they have caused by going in > >on their own, neglecting the UN's advice to wait a tiny bit longer. > > --- > I we'd taken the UN's advice we'd _still_ be playing their waiting > game. Would there be anything wrong with that ? Graham
From: Ken Smith on 6 Aug 2006 11:59 In article <ueoad2dq7hvutj1vsdmd9j9gj9brlqq8c2(a)4ax.com>, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:38:00 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT(a)techie.com> wrote: > > > >>Possibly because in the long view Israel is rather insignificant, >>except as a regional US puppy. What have they contributed to world >>wealth and wisdom? >> > >How about the latest Pentium architecture? Do we score that as a point for them or one against? -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Eeyore on 6 Aug 2006 11:55 John Larkin wrote: > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:49:24 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >John Woodgate wrote: > > > >> In message <C0FAA143.3DA13%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, dated Sat, 5 Aug 2006, > >> Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> writes > >> > >> >Gee, and all this time I thought an agenda could contain a bias based > >> >on personal or company "wants." And sore agendas exist due to anger or > >> >displeasure with people or companies." My golly, perhaps my > >> >observations while working on Standards Committees is wrong? > >> > >> All standards committees are wholly impartial and are never influenced > >> by personal or company 'wants'. Anger or displeasure are never expressed > >> in agendas, which are written so as to be utterly even-handed and > >> dispassionate. > > > >I heard that the IEC1000-3-2 limit for Class D of 75W ( to be later reduced to > >50W ) was indirectly influenced by Philips. > > > >I hear it's to be fixed at 75W now btw. > > > >Graham > > What does a "limit for class D" mean? John corrected me to point out that it's a 'bound' in fact. It's the power consumption at which equipment so covered has to conform to the relevant standard ( IEC/EN61000-3-2 in this case ) for hamonics emissions. Equipment using < 75W is effectively exempted ( actually 'not covered' ) > And why are you guys drifting Off Topic with this electronics stuff? Just being a bit radical ! Graham
From: John Larkin on 6 Aug 2006 12:00 On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:21:27 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Woodgate wrote: > >> In message <Xns9816C0F739835jyanikkuanet(a)129.250.170.83>, dated Sat, 5 >> Aug 2006, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> writes >> >> >Except that you don't see large numbers of Christians or Jews going >> >after civilian targets,mass murdering.No suicide bombers(and don't >> >mention McVeigh,that's not even close),no planting land mines where >> >civs will step on them,no shooting up schools full of children.You >> >don't see Christians or Jews rioting when their religion is >> >"insulted".Heck,they'd be rioting every day if that were the case. >> >> Not now, no. Militant Islam seems to be going through a phase like >> Militant Christianity did in the 15th and 16th centuries. > >Very true. It's almost like 'growing up'. The USA has even further to go. > Bizarre. The US was the first modern democracy and has both inspired and saved democracy around the world many, many times. If you look at the US over the last 230 years, it shows a longterm, sometimes erratic but definite progression toward more human rights, greater equality under law, less jingoism, and a greater trend towards foreign aid and worldwide shared prosperity. You could graph these things and see definite trend lines. Consider Europe. After a couple of millenia of warfare, colonialism, brokering in slavery, and class structure, things culminated in the horror of WWII. After that, Europe was so devastated physically, economically, and mostly spiritually, that it receded into itself, pretty much ignoring the world and looking inward (hey, about time!) and letting the US manage its defense, and the defense of democracies and free economies all around the world. Graph those trends, say "world involvement" and you'll see this big crash in the 1940's and a weak creep back up. I suggest it's Europe that's still way out of equilibrium and is still "growing up"; the immense transient of WWII is still settling out. Europe is just now (with the Soviet threat retreating) looking to its own defense and its own place in the world, trying to figure how it will fit in once again. It's time for Europe, with its act pretty much back together, to take a major place in the world again. And that consists of deciding things and doing things, not just sitting on the sidelines and bitching. The world could be a very nice place for everyone, but it's a lot of work, and Europe has a lot of debts still to pay, a lot of work to do. >Just look in comparison at how peaceful overall Hinduism is. As the bumper sticker says, Poverty is Violence. John
From: John Woodgate on 6 Aug 2006 11:57
In message <44D60907.B7557DCF(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >I don't recall the bit about four years. It was originally not given a >stated implementation date IIRC. Exactly; it couldn't be given a stated implementation date, because for an IEC standard (as opposed to an EN), there is no fixed date to start counting the four years from. That's one reason why it was against the rules. The other is that IEC National Committees have to vote on a change at the time it is to be made, not before. They can't necessarily know which way to vote on a future issue. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK |