From: joseph2k on 6 Aug 2006 23:52 John Woodgate wrote: > In message <go7cd25q808e2p4rek8i2spl31pilp8a9b(a)4ax.com>, dated Sun, 6 > Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes > >>The reason they have so many enemies, in my view, is because they're >>civilized, industrious, prosperous, smart, and they believe they're >>God's chosen people. Put that combination down next to a bunch of >>murderous, jealous riff-raff and it's not hard to see where the envy >>and hatred comes from. > > I just posted about that. >> >>Here's something I read the other day that I didn't know before, and >>that's that Jews don't write the name of God casually because they're >>afraid of what might happen to it. That is, it might get stepped on or >>disrespected in some way over which they have no control, and they >>don't want God to have to endure that. > > It's due a typical narrow view of the Supreme Being promoted by > unintelligent clerics. Does bothering about what happens to a written > version of his/her name gel with the concept of a Being who can create a > Universe? Especially if the phase-space of belief includes > predestination! > > Most people who confess a religious belief, of any flavour, have a very > limited concept of their god(s). > > Of course, the Stars and Stripes is treated with similar reverence, for > the same underlying reason. > >> I find it >>hard to find fault with people like that. > > I think that's a symptom of 'Old Glory' syndrome. > > But it's your flag; you worship it if you want. Faith is not Reason. I will be glad if you no longer confuse the two. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: joseph2k on 6 Aug 2006 23:57 Eeyore wrote: > > > John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields >> <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >> >> >What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I >> >guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let >> >Israel die than to help her. Why is that? >> >> >> What's a bigger mystery is why the European press gets so worked up >> over scores of collateral casualties in Lebanon and is silent when >> millions are dying in former European colonies in Africa. It's the >> differential blame game (the US is killing Lebanese; the Africa thing >> has nothing to do with us) with a factor of 1e5 or so. > > But it's *not* silent about Africa ! Where did you get that idea ? > > Whose idea was it to relieve debtor countries in Africa ( a serious > underlting problem ) btw ? Not Dubya's for sure, he's never been keen on > the idea and the US refused to join a plan to help provide clean > unpolluted water to developing countries ! Where *do* you get this stuff ? > In Europe, the US is considered notorious for simply not giving a damn > about poor countries. > > Graham Well duh. The corporatists (the corporations lackeys) do not see any profit in it. They worship Mammon after all. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: joseph2k on 7 Aug 2006 00:08 YD wrote: > On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields > <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > >>On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:59:18 +0100, Eeyore >><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>John Fields wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:58:14 +0100, Eeyore >>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >John Fields wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:07:18 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >>>> >> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >Interesting how hating Saddam made one a weak wimpy leftist back >>>> >> >then, and hating him now makes one a strong rightwing patriot. >>>> >> >>>> >> --- >>>> >> And what did hating the US make you back then, >>>> > >>>> >Probably considered vaguely irrational. >>>> > >>>> >> and what does it make you now? >>>> > >>>> >An increasingly popular opinion reflecting concern over the USA's >>>> >inability to get the picture. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> I asked what it makes _you_, not what popular opinion was, but no >>>> matter. Since you seem to identify with popular opinion, I suggest >>>> you're merely one of the sheep who is blindly caught up in a sheep >>>> stampede, LOL ;) >>> >>>I was hard pressed to find a good description. You see I don't *hate* the >>>US nor does anyone else I know. >>> >>>Exasperated about the USA would be more accurate. >> >>--- >>Because we're conducting our affairs in ways of which you >>disapprove, and while we're happy to take that into consideration, >>in the long run we'll do what we want to. >> >>What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I >>guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let >>Israel die than to help her. Why is that? >> > > Possibly because in the long view Israel is rather insignificant, > except as a regional US puppy. What have they contributed to world > wealth and wisdom? > > - YD. > Huge crop surpluses (fruits and vegetables) and advanced avionics and battery technologies come to mind. What has Hezbolla or Hamas contributed? -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: joseph2k on 7 Aug 2006 00:14 Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:38:00 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT(a)techie.com> Gave us: > >>On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields >><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:59:18 +0100, Eeyore >>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>John Fields wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:58:14 +0100, Eeyore >>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >John Fields wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:07:18 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >>>>> >> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >Interesting how hating Saddam made one a weak wimpy leftist back >>>>> >> >then, and hating him now makes one a strong rightwing patriot. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> --- >>>>> >> And what did hating the US make you back then, >>>>> > >>>>> >Probably considered vaguely irrational. >>>>> > >>>>> >> and what does it make you now? >>>>> > >>>>> >An increasingly popular opinion reflecting concern over the USA's >>>>> >inability to get the picture. >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> I asked what it makes _you_, not what popular opinion was, but no >>>>> matter. Since you seem to identify with popular opinion, I suggest >>>>> you're merely one of the sheep who is blindly caught up in a sheep >>>>> stampede, LOL ;) >>>> >>>>I was hard pressed to find a good description. You see I don't *hate* >>>>the US nor does anyone else I know. >>>> >>>>Exasperated about the USA would be more accurate. >>> >>>--- >>>Because we're conducting our affairs in ways of which you >>>disapprove, and while we're happy to take that into consideration, >>>in the long run we'll do what we want to. >>> >>>What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I >>>guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let >>>Israel die than to help her. Why is that? >>> >> >>Possibly because in the long view Israel is rather insignificant, >>except as a regional US puppy. What have they contributed to world >>wealth and wisdom? > > You're an idiot. > > I suggest you look back over the last thirty years worth of > Scientific American magazine issues. Israel is way up on the list of > high technology providers in medicine, and space, as well as military > defense technologies. I disagree with your use of insult. You have backed your position adequately this time. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: joseph2k on 7 Aug 2006 00:18
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > John Woodgate wrote: >> >> In message <b89cd29qdnn4g9apu4kip31l1jskvp4b9c(a)4ax.com>, dated Sun, 6 >> Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes >> >> > You're an idiot. >> >> Do you have to keep repeating that? It doesn't enhance your image. >> > >> > I suggest you look back over the last thirty years worth of Scientific >> >American magazine issues. Israel is way up on the list of high >> >technology providers in medicine, and space, as well as military >> >defense technologies. >> >> Quite. I once worked with a highly-intelligent person from Biafra in >> Nigeria, at the time when the Biafrans were subject to a genocide >> attempt. Charlie explained to me, 'Biafrans are Africa's answer to Jews; >> hard-working, mostly very sociable, and thus successful. No wonder the >> others hate us.'. > > > At least some of the Nigerians are very busy spammers and scammers. > I get 20 to 50 e-mails wanting me to move lots of money (of which I'm > promised a big cut), if only I'll give them direct access to my bank > accounts, and my SS number. > > Maybe you need a better ISP, mine blocks most of this stuff. Of course i can read it if i want to, just takes a little more effort to select the spam mail box. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller |