From: joseph2k on
John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <go7cd25q808e2p4rek8i2spl31pilp8a9b(a)4ax.com>, dated Sun, 6
> Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
>
>>The reason they have so many enemies, in my view, is because they're
>>civilized, industrious, prosperous, smart, and they believe they're
>>God's chosen people. Put that combination down next to a bunch of
>>murderous, jealous riff-raff and it's not hard to see where the envy
>>and hatred comes from.
>
> I just posted about that.
>>
>>Here's something I read the other day that I didn't know before, and
>>that's that Jews don't write the name of God casually because they're
>>afraid of what might happen to it. That is, it might get stepped on or
>>disrespected in some way over which they have no control, and they
>>don't want God to have to endure that.
>
> It's due a typical narrow view of the Supreme Being promoted by
> unintelligent clerics. Does bothering about what happens to a written
> version of his/her name gel with the concept of a Being who can create a
> Universe? Especially if the phase-space of belief includes
> predestination!
>
> Most people who confess a religious belief, of any flavour, have a very
> limited concept of their god(s).
>
> Of course, the Stars and Stripes is treated with similar reverence, for
> the same underlying reason.
>
>> I find it
>>hard to find fault with people like that.
>
> I think that's a symptom of 'Old Glory' syndrome.
>
> But it's your flag; you worship it if you want.

Faith is not Reason. I will be glad if you no longer confuse the two.

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From: joseph2k on
Eeyore wrote:

>
>
> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields
>> <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I
>> >guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let
>> >Israel die than to help her. Why is that?
>>
>>
>> What's a bigger mystery is why the European press gets so worked up
>> over scores of collateral casualties in Lebanon and is silent when
>> millions are dying in former European colonies in Africa. It's the
>> differential blame game (the US is killing Lebanese; the Africa thing
>> has nothing to do with us) with a factor of 1e5 or so.
>
> But it's *not* silent about Africa ! Where did you get that idea ?
>
> Whose idea was it to relieve debtor countries in Africa ( a serious
> underlting problem ) btw ? Not Dubya's for sure, he's never been keen on
> the idea and the US refused to join a plan to help provide clean
> unpolluted water to developing countries ! Where *do* you get this stuff ?
> In Europe, the US is considered notorious for simply not giving a damn
> about poor countries.
>
> Graham

Well duh. The corporatists (the corporations lackeys) do not see any profit
in it. They worship Mammon after all.

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JosephKK
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--Schiller
From: joseph2k on
YD wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields
> <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:59:18 +0100, Eeyore
>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>John Fields wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:58:14 +0100, Eeyore
>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >John Fields wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:07:18 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>>>> >> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Interesting how hating Saddam made one a weak wimpy leftist back
>>>> >> >then, and hating him now makes one a strong rightwing patriot.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ---
>>>> >> And what did hating the US make you back then,
>>>> >
>>>> >Probably considered vaguely irrational.
>>>> >
>>>> >> and what does it make you now?
>>>> >
>>>> >An increasingly popular opinion reflecting concern over the USA's
>>>> >inability to get the picture.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> I asked what it makes _you_, not what popular opinion was, but no
>>>> matter. Since you seem to identify with popular opinion, I suggest
>>>> you're merely one of the sheep who is blindly caught up in a sheep
>>>> stampede, LOL ;)
>>>
>>>I was hard pressed to find a good description. You see I don't *hate* the
>>>US nor does anyone else I know.
>>>
>>>Exasperated about the USA would be more accurate.
>>
>>---
>>Because we're conducting our affairs in ways of which you
>>disapprove, and while we're happy to take that into consideration,
>>in the long run we'll do what we want to.
>>
>>What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I
>>guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let
>>Israel die than to help her. Why is that?
>>
>
> Possibly because in the long view Israel is rather insignificant,
> except as a regional US puppy. What have they contributed to world
> wealth and wisdom?
>
> - YD.
>

Huge crop surpluses (fruits and vegetables) and advanced avionics and
battery technologies come to mind.

What has Hezbolla or Hamas contributed?

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From: joseph2k on
Phat Bytestard wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:38:00 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT(a)techie.com> Gave us:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields
>><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:59:18 +0100, Eeyore
>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John Fields wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:58:14 +0100, Eeyore
>>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >John Fields wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:07:18 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>>>>> >> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >Interesting how hating Saddam made one a weak wimpy leftist back
>>>>> >> >then, and hating him now makes one a strong rightwing patriot.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---
>>>>> >> And what did hating the US make you back then,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Probably considered vaguely irrational.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> and what does it make you now?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >An increasingly popular opinion reflecting concern over the USA's
>>>>> >inability to get the picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> I asked what it makes _you_, not what popular opinion was, but no
>>>>> matter. Since you seem to identify with popular opinion, I suggest
>>>>> you're merely one of the sheep who is blindly caught up in a sheep
>>>>> stampede, LOL ;)
>>>>
>>>>I was hard pressed to find a good description. You see I don't *hate*
>>>>the US nor does anyone else I know.
>>>>
>>>>Exasperated about the USA would be more accurate.
>>>
>>>---
>>>Because we're conducting our affairs in ways of which you
>>>disapprove, and while we're happy to take that into consideration,
>>>in the long run we'll do what we want to.
>>>
>>>What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I
>>>guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let
>>>Israel die than to help her. Why is that?
>>>
>>
>>Possibly because in the long view Israel is rather insignificant,
>>except as a regional US puppy. What have they contributed to world
>>wealth and wisdom?
>
> You're an idiot.
>
> I suggest you look back over the last thirty years worth of
> Scientific American magazine issues. Israel is way up on the list of
> high technology providers in medicine, and space, as well as military
> defense technologies.

I disagree with your use of insult.

You have backed your position adequately this time.

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JosephKK
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From: joseph2k on
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> John Woodgate wrote:
>>
>> In message <b89cd29qdnn4g9apu4kip31l1jskvp4b9c(a)4ax.com>, dated Sun, 6
>> Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes
>>
>> > You're an idiot.
>>
>> Do you have to keep repeating that? It doesn't enhance your image.
>> >
>> > I suggest you look back over the last thirty years worth of Scientific
>> >American magazine issues. Israel is way up on the list of high
>> >technology providers in medicine, and space, as well as military
>> >defense technologies.
>>
>> Quite. I once worked with a highly-intelligent person from Biafra in
>> Nigeria, at the time when the Biafrans were subject to a genocide
>> attempt. Charlie explained to me, 'Biafrans are Africa's answer to Jews;
>> hard-working, mostly very sociable, and thus successful. No wonder the
>> others hate us.'.
>
>
> At least some of the Nigerians are very busy spammers and scammers.
> I get 20 to 50 e-mails wanting me to move lots of money (of which I'm
> promised a big cut), if only I'll give them direct access to my bank
> accounts, and my SS number.
>
>

Maybe you need a better ISP, mine blocks most of this stuff. Of course i
can read it if i want to, just takes a little more effort to select the
spam mail box.

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JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.  
--Schiller