From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 18:57:34 +0100, John Woodgate
> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In message <44D628FF.FC0D5FCD(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 6 Aug
> >2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
> >
> >>In the UK it simply means that house purchase has become beyond the
> >>means of many who would once have been able to afford to buy.
> >>
> >>Round here, house purchase is no longer possible on anything other than
> >>a very serious income.
> >
> >It's a self-fulfilling process. House prices rise, and the industry
> >finds more and more ingenious ways of making those prices affordable.
> >It's very much in the interest of their commission payments to do so.
> >It's got to the point now that the Government can't stop it; action to
> >restore realistic prices would create widespread hardship. The reasons
> >are complex and I don't propose to recount them here.
> >
> >The really spectacular escalation occurred from around 50 years ago, as
> >provident people became able to purchase their house as sitting tenants.
> >Over about 30 years, the value of the house increased 100-fold.
>
> In California, the squeeze results from increasing population combined
> with putting a lot of land off-limits to development. You don't have a
> lot of surplus land in Britain, either, I guess. Housing is a fraction
> of our local pricing in, say, Texas or Florida.

The problem in the SE of Engalnd is likewise exacerbated by demand and lack of
much suitably designated land.

You can buy a house for 'peanuts' in some areas but getting a job there might be
trickier.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:36:17 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >John Fields wrote:
>
> >> Yeah, you don't hate the US, huh???
> >
> >Compared to France.........
>
> ---
> What's that supposed to mean? That France hates us more than you
> do, or that you hate France more than you do the US, or what???

I was referring to those posters here who regularly exhibit their contempt for
France. Turning the question round if you like.

Note my choice of words btw - I don't simplifiy everything to black and white. The
word hate should only ever be used where it's justified.


> >It's not hate John. I see you don't criticise those on your side of the ocean
> >who probably do hate France with no good reason btw.
>
> ---
> That's because on this side of the pond there's no good reason _not_
> to hate France! ;)

Pfftttt....


> Except for the Statue of Liberty, the Louisiana purchase, the gram,
> the metre, foie gras and Roquefort and Bordeaux and on and on...
>
> Seriously, though, why would you expect me to ride herd on US
> Francophobes?

Not specifically I don't. What I had in mind was the way you ( or was it JL? )
jumped on me for what amounts to suggesting a fairly innocent action whilst not
commenting on your countrymen here who are happily proposing mass murder to solve
geo-political issues !


> I've never been to France, so I don't have any
> hands-on experience with the niceties or even the not-so-niceties of
> that culture, so that puts me out of judgement range.

You're somewhat more rational than some here.

Graham

From: Phat Bytestard on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:12:18 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:

>
>
>Phat Bytestard wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:29:14 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> Gave us:
>>
>> > Yes, it does. If you're in the paper products or produce business.
>> >It would be damn hard to make money selling apples and other fruit
>> >without growing them on trees. It would also be very hard to build
>> >decent homes without lumber, which grows on trees, as well.
>>
>> Yep... even the media that the "money" got printed on came from
>> trees.
>
>Rag has been traditionally used actually ! You can't get much right can you ?

Where do you think rag comes from, twit?
From: Phat Bytestard on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:31:20 GMT, Sandbox Moderator
<yahright(a)example.com> Gave us:

>Bill, please don't trollfeed. It's unseemly.

Dude, you are retarded. Your new nym proves that beyond doubt.
From: John Fields on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:06:56 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Woodgate wrote:
>
>> In message <1154865648.931183.173690(a)i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> dated Sun, 6 Aug 2006, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org writes
>>
>> >As was pointed out before you invaded Irak, the three-way division of
>> >Irak into Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites makes it impossible to construct a
>> >stable government.
>>
>> The *government* was reasonably stable before Saddam, and, of course,
>> during his reign of oppression and genocide. Various sectors of the
>> population experienced bad things; such was the price of 'stability'.
>
>Overall it seems that the price under Saddam was less than the price under the
>coalition.

---
I think the cost in innocent Human lives under Saddam Hussein was
greater than the cost after his deposition.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer