From: Don Bowey on 3 Aug 2006 01:45 On 8/2/06 10:02 PM, in article 44D1834D.314D1A6B(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Don Bowey wrote: > >> On 8/2/06 8:05 PM, in article 44D167FC.215CE462(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Don Bowey wrote: >>> >>>> When the Keizer was killed, leading into WW1, >>> >>> No such thing happened. It's Kaiser btw unless you're Dutch in which case >>> your >>> spelling is correct for you. >>> >>>> should all the treaties have >>>> been abrogated, having no country step in to help another? Standby and >>>> hope >>>> the flames will die on their own? >>>> >>>> How about WW2? Should the US have simply defended itself in the Pacific, >>>> and let events in the Pacific and Europe play out without US involvement? >>> >>> Didn't have a choice. By going to war with Japan the US was at war with its >>> Axis ally Germany. >>> >>> Graham >> >> Sure there was a choice. >> >> I believe I could make a strong case that if the US concentrated on Japan >> and won that war much earlier, Germany would have been glad to leave the US >> alone so they could concentrate on Europe. > > Is that so ? > > Why do you think Germany was working on diesel fuelled aircraft engines ? And > very > long range submarines too btw ? > > >> The US would not have fought >> Germany until much later, if at all. If there was further warring Germany >> would have been defeated by the US and Russia. > > I'm wondering if it wouldn't have made more sense for Britain to have made > peace > with Germany on the condition that France was un-occupied and the 3 countries > would > rule a New Europe. > > We could have quietly had Hitler assasinated so many of the Jews would have > lived > and Russia would have quietly taken the hint and kept out of the way. > > Had we gone that way, I reckon it's likely that half the globe would be > 'European' > now ( think of the combined overseas territories of the former colonial powers > ) and > the USA would simply be a colony again ! > > Graham > Dream on. My only comment is that this would be a very different world had the US not entered into the war in Europe. Don
From: Don Bowey on 3 Aug 2006 01:48 On 8/2/06 10:08 PM, in article 44D184CF.F95B86DF(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >>> >>> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >>> >>>> Does "Lend-Lease" mean anything to you? >>> >>> It was a great way of getting rid of ( and getting paid for ) loads of >>> ancient >>> destroyers otherwise good only for the scrapyard. >>> >>> Graham >> >> Is your education really that bad in England? They got lots of brand >> new airplanes that the Russian pilots flew from Ladd Air Force Base in >> Alaska, across the Bering Straight into Russia to fight the Germans. >> they were built near the west coast, and flown to Alaska by some of the >> first women pilots in the US. They were not allowed to fly in war >> zones, so they were trained to fly transport missions to move war >> materials and planes. > > That was after war was declared and us Brits *paid* for our airplanes I'll > have you > know ! > > Graham > Sure. And the tooth fairy gave you the money. Some times you are really funny. Don
From: Eeyore on 3 Aug 2006 01:53 Don Bowey wrote: > On 8/2/06 10:02 PM, in article 44D1834D.314D1A6B(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm wondering if it wouldn't have made more sense for Britain to have made > > peace with Germany on the condition that France was un-occupied and > the > 3 countries would rule a New > Europe. > > > > We could have quietly had Hitler assasinated so many of the Jews would have > > lived and Russia would have quietly taken the hint and kept out of the way. > > > > Had we gone that way, I reckon it's likely that half the globe would be > > 'European' now ( think of the combined overseas territories of the former > > colonial powers ) and the USA would simply be a colony again ! > > > Dream on. My only comment is that this would be a very different world had > the US not entered into the war in Europe. You're deluding yourself about possible scenarios. It was WW2 that made the USA a world power. Without it you'd still be a backwater. Graahm
From: Eeyore on 3 Aug 2006 01:58 Don Bowey wrote: > On 8/2/06 10:08 PM, in article 44D184CF.F95B86DF(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> Is your education really that bad in England? They got lots of brand > >> new airplanes that the Russian pilots flew from Ladd Air Force Base in > >> Alaska, across the Bering Straight into Russia to fight the Germans. > >> they were built near the west coast, and flown to Alaska by some of the > >> first women pilots in the US. They were not allowed to fly in war > >> zones, so they were trained to fly transport missions to move war > >> materials and planes. > > > > That was after war was declared and us Brits *paid* for our airplanes I'll > > have you know ! > > > > Graham > > Sure. And the tooth fairy gave you the money. > > Some times you are really funny. Do you know who commisioned and paid for the famous P51 Mustang ? The British ! When it underperformed with its miserable US Allison engine, who had the bright idea of putting a *British* Rolls Royce Merlin in instead ? The *British* RAF ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P51 Graham
From: Michael A. Terrell on 3 Aug 2006 02:50
Eeyore wrote: > > He's better looking than you ! > > Graham This isn't a dating service. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |