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From: Michael A. Terrell on 3 Aug 2006 02:57 Eeyore wrote: > > Don Bowey wrote: > > > On 8/2/06 10:02 PM, in article 44D1834D.314D1A6B(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I'm wondering if it wouldn't have made more sense for Britain to have made > > > peace with Germany on the condition that France was un-occupied and > > the > 3 countries would rule a New > > Europe. > > > > > > We could have quietly had Hitler assasinated so many of the Jews would have > > > lived and Russia would have quietly taken the hint and kept out of the way. > > > > > > Had we gone that way, I reckon it's likely that half the globe would be > > > 'European' now ( think of the combined overseas territories of the former > > > colonial powers ) and the USA would simply be a colony again ! > > > > > > Dream on. My only comment is that this would be a very different world had > > the US not entered into the war in Europe. > > You're deluding yourself about possible scenarios. It was WW2 that made the USA a > world power. Without it you'd still be a backwater. > > Graahm England wouldn't exist. A "Backwater" country could not have converted all of its industry to war materials, food, and medical supplies, or supplied so many trained solders in several generations, you little brain dead rag doll. The US was already a power to be reckoned with, but we were minding our own business. When push came to shove, we shoved, and won. You can whine, lie and cry all you want, but the facts are the facts. You could not have produced the steel, aluminum, copper and other needed metals in large enough quantities in time to build anything on the scale needed to win a World War. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Eeyore on 3 Aug 2006 03:08 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > > > Don Bowey wrote: > > > > > On 8/2/06 10:02 PM, in article 44D1834D.314D1A6B(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, > > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm wondering if it wouldn't have made more sense for Britain to have made > > > > peace with Germany on the condition that France was un-occupied and > > > the > 3 countries would rule a New > > > Europe. > > > > > > > > We could have quietly had Hitler assasinated so many of the Jews would have > > > > lived and Russia would have quietly taken the hint and kept out of the way. > > > > > > > > Had we gone that way, I reckon it's likely that half the globe would be > > > > 'European' now ( think of the combined overseas territories of the former > > > > colonial powers ) and the USA would simply be a colony again ! > > > > > > > > > Dream on. My only comment is that this would be a very different world had > > > the US not entered into the war in Europe. > > > > You're deluding yourself about possible scenarios. It was WW2 that made the USA a > > world power. Without it you'd still be a backwater. > > > > Graahm > > England wouldn't exist. A "Backwater" country could not have > converted all of its industry to war materials, food, and medical > supplies You would appear to be talking about the UK it seems ! > The US was already a power to be > reckoned with, but we were minding our own business. So much so in your sleep encumbered state that Japan nearly delivered a knockout blow to you at Pearl Harbor. Had the carriers not been out at sea, US naval power in the Pacific could have been entirely discounted for several years ! > When push came to shove, we shoved, and won. You mean you were cajoled into it. > You can whine, lie and cry all you want, but > the facts are the facts. You could not have produced the steel, > aluminum, copper and other needed metals in large enough quantities in > time to build anything on the scale needed to win a World War. Which is why we asked you ! Tizard knew the value of large-scale industrial manufacturing. We paid our bills too ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizard_Mission In return you got our 'golden jewels' utterly free of charge like radar and jet engines. Graham
From: Michael A. Terrell on 3 Aug 2006 03:19 Eeyore wrote: > > > Which is why we asked you ! Tizard knew the value of large-scale industrial > manufacturing. We paid our bills too ! The last time I checked, ( a few years ago) the only country that had paid their entire war debt was Finland. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizard_Mission > > In return you got our 'golden jewels' utterly free of charge like radar and jet engines. > > Graham Lets see. It was the Americans who figured out how to build the magnetrons quickly and efficiently, so that RADAR would be of any use during the war. I won't comment on jet engines, because I have not studied their history. I have seen film of the method the british used to try to build magnetrons, and the high failure rate, VS the method developed in the US to use a semi automated manufacturing process to produce the component parts that allowed a rapid and accurate assembly with a very low failure rate. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Eeyore on 3 Aug 2006 03:26 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > > > Which is why we asked you ! Tizard knew the value of large-scale industrial > > manufacturing. We paid our bills too ! > > The last time I checked, ( a few years ago) the only country that had > paid their entire war debt was Finland. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizard_Mission > > > > In return you got our 'golden jewels' utterly free of charge like radar and jet engines. > > > > Graham > > Lets see. It was the Americans who figured out how to build the > magnetrons quickly and efficiently No argument. That was the very 'raison d'etre' of the Tizard Mission. To tap into American manufacturing ability. That much was clear from the start. .. > so that RADAR would be of any use > during the war. I won't comment on jet engines, because I have not > studied their history. I have seen film of the method the british used > to try to build magnetrons, and the high failure rate Really ? Of the first 12 resonant cavity magnetrons made at GEC, 12 worked ! > VS the method > developed in the US to use a semi automated manufacturing process to > produce the component parts that allowed a rapid and accurate assembly > with a very low failure rate. It's called a die. Graham
From: bill.sloman on 3 Aug 2006 06:20
Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:17:36 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> Gave us: > > >Eeyore wrote: > >> > >> bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > >> > >> > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> > > Jim Thompson wrote: > > Obviously too many head shots. This is field-hockey, not ice-hockey, as I've already mentioned. I've got two scars on my face - neither obvious - as souveniers of head shots. The small scar in the centre of my forehead dates from my early twenties when I slipped and fell while in hot pursuit of a forward, and put my forehead onto the end of his backswing. That took five or six stitches to repair. Bloody, but there was no evidence of concussion. The other scar is on my lower lip, and is the souvenier of a wrong-side tackle, which ran my lower jaw into the follow-though from a frustrated hit at goal. That took more fixing - one broken tooth in the upper jaw, one tooth knocked out in the lower jaw, and a fracture-line across the lower jaw that took three months to heal. Again, no evidence of concussion. When they X-rayed my jaw they found a newly healed fracture up in the condyles - when they pointed it out, I could rememer the collision with the forward at hockey practice that had done the damage - I'd kept on playing after the impact, but it had got my attention. In recent years I've tended to play as keeper - goal-keepers don't have to run as far or as often as open-field players - and for that I wear an ice-hockey goal-keeprs helmet. This wasn't usual when I was young, but I bought a helmet around 1988 and gave ti to my Cambridge Club to be used by whoever was playing keeper for my (low) team (including me). In the Netherlands the club insurers insist that anyone who plays as keeper wears a helmet, a chest protector and padded pants as well as the traditional thigh, knee, shin and foot protection. Since there was never any evidence of concussion from these incidents, significant brain damage seems unlikely. I continued to score in the uncalibrated top end of IQ tests, but then so do Clive Sinclair and Jim Thompson. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen |