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From: Ray Fischer on 13 Feb 2010 14:48 Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >news:4b762132$0$1589$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>"Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message >>>news:hl3i1v$egi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>> news:e639n5l1ojhndtjn77g7nu75vhljjuj5n5(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:32:37 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >>>>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:i2b8n59tp15ch64gtu0gdt2q5l7vv8huip(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:28:54 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >>>>>>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sounds like you are confusing her with Obama. He never had to make a >>>>>>>>hard >>>>>>>>decision in any facet of his career before becoming president. At >>>>>>>>least >>>>>>>>Palin has experience running something. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Running away from running something is a better description. With >>>>>>> Palin as President, she'd lose interest in the job if things didn't >>>>>>> go her way and find some other bright and shiny object to play with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To me, she's like the Bearded Lady in the carnival sideshow...people >>>>>>> will pay to see her, but nobody wants to take her home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>>>> >>>>>>She may not be the best choice and is certainly not my first or even >>>>>>second >>>>>>but if it is between her and Obama, there is no contest. I'll take her >>>>>>in >>>>>>an instant over Obama. >>>>>> >>>>> It seems to me that one of the biggest hurdles any modern-day >>>>> President has is to effectively work with Congress by retaining the >>>>> support of his/her own party members and securing at least some >>>>> support of the opposing party's members. >>>>> >>>>> Obama has not been particularly effective in this, but Palin would not >>>>> be at all effective in this. IMO. >>>>> -- >>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>> >>>> It's the policy differences that matter more to me. The differences >>>> between Palin and Obama are like night and day. >>>> >>>That's exactly right. Obama makes a very creditable president, and Palin >>>would not. But Obama is a liberal Democrat, which is my worst nightmare, >>>and >>>Palin is a conservative Republican which is the closest thing to a perfect >>>leader I can imagine, so I would vote for her in a New York minute. >> >> A "conservative" republican who was governer of a state that relies >> quite heavily on federal money. >> >> Anyone who would vote for Palin is an idiot. > >We agree on something. Remember Bill votes his for pocketbook, not humanity. He votes for his cult and not for humanity or his pocketbook. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: George Kerby on 13 Feb 2010 15:09 On 2/13/10 1:46 PM, in article 4b7701ae$0$1601$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net, "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote: > Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>> Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >>>> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>> C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> You know, I don't know where people get this caricature of Bill Gates >>>>>> being a greedy, selfish moneybags. >>>>> >>>>> To some degree nearly every corporate CEO is a greedy, selfish >>>>> moneybag. It's nearly a job requirement. >>>> >>>> You obviously refuse to recognize the responsibility of a CEO, regardless >>>> of >>>> the size of the corporation. >>> >>> Correct. >>> >>>> When you open up in the morning and realize >>>> that x number of people are looking to you for guidance and depend on your >>>> skills to prevent starvation, or to promote a reasonable life style, you >>>> should recognize that you have an awesome responsibility. Sure, some are >>>> greedy turds, but they are in the minority. >>> >>> I have seen far too many CEO's laying off $60,000/yr workers so that >>> they can continue to take home $20,000,000/yr. To think that a >>> typical CEO has the interests of employees as a priority is naive. >>> If they cared about employees or the company then they'd be getting >>> $1,000,000/yr and using the extra money to keep 200 employees producing >>> products to sell. >> >> Your comments make it obvious that you know absolutely nothing about >> business. A good CEO holds the interests the company first. > > LOL! Is that what they tell you? > >> In a public >> company, he is accountable to the board, who represents the interests of the >> owners. > > ROFL! The board represent the shareholders?!? And you really believe that? > > When was the last time a board member got fired by the shareholders? > When was the last time shareholders picked a board member? Or CEO? > You need to quit before you embarrass yourself any further. You never have even seen a proxy vote form, have you, FishHead Rot?!? What a dumbass...
From: George Kerby on 13 Feb 2010 15:11 On 2/13/10 1:47 PM, in article 4b7701d8$0$1601$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net, "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote: > Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >> news:2010021220360571490-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >>> On 2010-02-12 19:49:06 -0800, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said: >>> >>>> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:hl3i1v$egi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:e639n5l1ojhndtjn77g7nu75vhljjuj5n5(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:32:37 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >>>>>>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:i2b8n59tp15ch64gtu0gdt2q5l7vv8huip(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:28:54 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >>>>>>>>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sounds like you are confusing her with Obama. He never had to make >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> hard >>>>>>>>>> decision in any facet of his career before becoming president. At >>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>> Palin has experience running something. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Running away from running something is a better description. With >>>>>>>>> Palin as President, she'd lose interest in the job if things didn't >>>>>>>>> go her way and find some other bright and shiny object to play with. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To me, she's like the Bearded Lady in the carnival sideshow...people >>>>>>>>> will pay to see her, but nobody wants to take her home. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> She may not be the best choice and is certainly not my first or even >>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>> but if it is between her and Obama, there is no contest. I'll take >>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> an instant over Obama. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems to me that one of the biggest hurdles any modern-day >>>>>>> President has is to effectively work with Congress by retaining the >>>>>>> support of his/her own party members and securing at least some >>>>>>> support of the opposing party's members. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obama has not been particularly effective in this, but Palin would not >>>>>>> be at all effective in this. IMO. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the policy differences that matter more to me. The differences >>>>>> between Palin and Obama are like night and day. >>>>>> >>>>> That's exactly right. Obama makes a very creditable president, and Palin >>>>> would not. But Obama is a liberal Democrat, which is my worst nightmare, >>>>> and >>>>> Palin is a conservative Republican which is the closest thing to a >>>>> perfect >>>>> leader I can imagine, so I would vote for her in a New York minute. >>>> >>>> A "conservative" republican who was governer of a state that relies >>>> quite heavily on federal money. >>>> >>>> Anyone who would vote for Palin is an idiot. >>> >>> Well, we have identified at least 2, maybe 3 in this thread. >>> >> Ah.....The latest definition of, "idiot". - Anyone who votes for a >> president who was the former governor of a state that got a lot of money >> from the federal government.........Huh? > > Nobody wrote that and lying only makes you look like a bigot. I wish I had a dime for every time you have posted "bigot", FishRot. I would retire a multi-millionaire.
From: Peter on 13 Feb 2010 15:26 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4b7701ae$0$1601$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>> I have seen far too many CEO's laying off $60,000/yr workers so that >>> they can continue to take home $20,000,000/yr. To think that a >>> typical CEO has the interests of employees as a priority is naive. >>> If they cared about employees or the company then they'd be getting >>> $1,000,000/yr and using the extra money to keep 200 employees producing >>> products to sell. How about some examples: You are making accusations of clear violations of rhe SEC Regulations. >> >>Your comments make it obvious that you know absolutely nothing about >>business. A good CEO holds the interests the company first. > > LOL! Is that what they tell you? They? Suggest you get over your bitter pill and learn something about the reality of business before you open your mouth. > >> In a public >>company, he is accountable to the board, who represents the interests of >>the >>owners. > > ROFL! The board represent the shareholders?!? And you really believe > that? And just how do you think a director becomes a director. He/she is elected by vot of the shareholders. It's becomming obvious that you have never owned stock in a public company. It is also obvous that you never have run a successful business, or if you have, you are just blowing smoke. > > When was the last time a board member got fired by the shareholders? > When was the last time shareholders picked a board member? Or CEO? > Read this and learn. http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/04/082704.asp >> To maintain and grow a healthy company. A good manager recognizes >>that the workers are the lifeblood of the company. > > If any of your beliefs were true then we wouldn't see corporations > spending so much to hire and train workers only to fire them a few > years later and then repeat the process again. My statements are based upon personal observation and experience. What are your statements based upon? > > Sure, there are some good CEOs, but there aren't many. > More than you would admit. Wow! You certainly are a fountain of misinformation. -- Peter
From: Bill Graham on 13 Feb 2010 16:13
"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message news:4b76b7b2$0$18772$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... > "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message > news:4b762132$0$1589$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>"Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message >>>news:hl3i1v$egi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>> news:e639n5l1ojhndtjn77g7nu75vhljjuj5n5(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:32:37 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >>>>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:i2b8n59tp15ch64gtu0gdt2q5l7vv8huip(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:28:54 -0500, "Pete Stavrakoglou" >>>>>>> <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sounds like you are confusing her with Obama. He never had to make >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>hard >>>>>>>>decision in any facet of his career before becoming president. At >>>>>>>>least >>>>>>>>Palin has experience running something. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Running away from running something is a better description. With >>>>>>> Palin as President, she'd lose interest in the job if things didn't >>>>>>> go her way and find some other bright and shiny object to play with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To me, she's like the Bearded Lady in the carnival sideshow...people >>>>>>> will pay to see her, but nobody wants to take her home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>>>> >>>>>>She may not be the best choice and is certainly not my first or even >>>>>>second >>>>>>but if it is between her and Obama, there is no contest. I'll take >>>>>>her >>>>>>in >>>>>>an instant over Obama. >>>>>> >>>>> It seems to me that one of the biggest hurdles any modern-day >>>>> President has is to effectively work with Congress by retaining the >>>>> support of his/her own party members and securing at least some >>>>> support of the opposing party's members. >>>>> >>>>> Obama has not been particularly effective in this, but Palin would not >>>>> be at all effective in this. IMO. >>>>> -- >>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>> >>>> It's the policy differences that matter more to me. The differences >>>> between Palin and Obama are like night and day. >>>> >>>That's exactly right. Obama makes a very creditable president, and Palin >>>would not. But Obama is a liberal Democrat, which is my worst nightmare, >>>and >>>Palin is a conservative Republican which is the closest thing to a >>>perfect >>>leader I can imagine, so I would vote for her in a New York minute. >> >> A "conservative" republican who was governer of a state that relies >> quite heavily on federal money. >> >> Anyone who would vote for Palin is an idiot. > > > We agree on something. Remember Bill votes his for pocketbook, not > humanity. Yes.....I am very uncomfortable when politicians have their hands in my pockets........Just because Robin Hood gave money to the poor, that doesn't prevent me from calling him a thief. |