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From: Peter Roussy on 6 Apr 2010 14:55 Well, I went int the BOIS and shut off the audio and the Lan (I left all of the USB on for now) and then I ran msconfig and took out everything I could from the startup tab. I am left with Avast (I tried to turn it off but it comes back), ipiont and itype (MS wireless kb and mouse), the Delta panel, BCU and NvCpl (again, tried but they came back). That brought the system processes down from 40 to 30 and now I can run at 64 samples and no pops. I will continue to trim but at least its working. I want to get the Lan and sound back if I can. I also ran the DPC Latency checker again. I am getting some wierd readings. If Reaper is running and I start it, I get readings just under 1000us but if I stop and restart the song in Reaper, the checker drops down to 8 or 9us with peaks up to maybe 50us. I know it still working because I inserted a synth while the song was running and noticed that the latency spiked to about 350us or so. Peter Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:Xns9D5257845449EBrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)81.169.183.62... > The killer robot "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> grabbed the controls > of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >> I'm running reaper in 16 bit with asio 64 samples latency as well and >> I didn't tweak reaper at all. I'm also using the same AP2496 driver as >> you. I'm not loading this thing up at all but it still pops and >> clicks. I had this same problem in previous systems until I could get >> the card on it's own IRQ. The thing I notice about this new system is >> that there are a cajillion things using up all the IRQ's and yet some >> numbers are not even listed (like 2,4,5,7,10,11,12,14,15 & 20). I >> tried to attach a picture of this but OE won't let me post an >> attachement to this group and I can't seem to imbed it in this >> message. I'm wondering what your IRQ table looks like? Is your AP2496 >> sharing with anything? > > My AP2496 is on an IRQ that is shared. I'm not at my DAW right now, but > I'll check it when I get home. If I were you, I'd try disabling *every* > on > board peripheral, like USB, sound, parallel and serial ports. Then boot > up, at which point both the BIOS and Windows will re-shuffle the deck of > who gets what IRQ. If that gets rid of the pops, then I'd one at a time, > re-enable the on board stuff. > > -- > Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email > ________ __ > / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ > / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ > / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / > \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo > Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits > Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
From: Steve L. on 6 Apr 2010 15:21 "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in news:QsLun.968$z%6.435(a)edtnps83: > I also ran the DPC Latency checker again There's a program out there that logs what DPC does and you can possibly trace dowm what's causing the spikes ... I'll see if I can find it ... or maybe somebody can remember what it's called.
From: polymod on 6 Apr 2010 16:19 "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:QsLun.968$z%6.435(a)edtnps83... > I am left with Avast (I tried to turn it off but it > comes back Hey Pete...Poly the resident computer dummy here. I've always had problems with Avast and find Microsoft Security Essentials works just as well if not better and without the bloat. I think you may need to go into safe mode to uninstall Avast completely. Best, Poly
From: Steve_Karl on 6 Apr 2010 17:00 http://forum.cakewalk.com/tt.aspx?forumid=46 Jim and Scott are usually very generous with their knowledge so post your questions there and someone ( hopefully one of them ) will grill you for more specific info. Jim owns and runs www.studiocat.com and Scott is involved with http://www.adkproaudio.com/ Steve "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:NBJun.957$z%6.775(a)edtnps83... > Yes, I will have to start cleaning up. I don't thing I will reload the operating system but I will have to shut down these extra > services. > Where is the "real" forum? > > Peter > > "Steve_Karl" <nospam(a)noway.com> wrote in message news:hpep1l$mle$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> 1000us is way high >> ... and 40 processes ... that's reduculous sloppy for any home built XP machine ... even if it's an internet box. >> Just my opinion :-) >> >> My weakest audio PC: ( an other os partition on this machine ) >> ... no more than 12us on DPC latency checker and 17 processes running. >> It's an AMD 3000+ Single core Barton core, with 2GB of ram running XP SP-1. >> ABIT NF7-s mother board. >> I never get any audio glitches that can't be addressed by just upping my latency slider >> or freezing tracks. >> >> Generally I can run the SP-1 OS of this pc at 1.5ms latency when cutting tracks >> and have finished projects with 80+ audio tracks, mixing at about 11 oe 12MS. >> >> ===================== >> It's a tripple boot machine. >> On "this" OS partition ( same machine ) as I write 26 processes running >> on XP SP-3 and 49us max. Over here my audio is only hobby level. >> Sure, I can have email open and record a few guitar tracks, but I'd never attempt anything >> serious. >> >> If I had your problem I'd: >> Reinstall the OS and do a bare bones clean install ( no windows updates and earliest >> SP you can use.) No AV nothing internet oriented and no browser newer than IE6. ... just audio software. >> Nothing but bare bones and audio software. Nothing but bare bones and audio software. >> >> GO into the bios and disable anything not needed for audio including any on board audio, >> wireless, ports etc. Firewire ... all OFF in the bios. >> Then retest. >> If your DPC is still up near 1000 then you've got something (hardware) begging for too much attention. >> >> Just my opinion. >> >> Check with the pros over at the real forum. >> Jim Roseberry and Scott from ADK. >> >> SK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:fZzun.1024$Z6.520(a)edtnps82... >>> Quite a few actually. 40, to be exact, but they aren't using hardly any memory or CPU. I hear other talking about doing audio >>> while emailing, browsing and running video, all the while with anti virus going. I would like to see how many proccesses are >>> going on in those systems. >>> >>> I D/Led the checker and found that I had no more than 1000us latency. >>> >>> >>> "Steve_Karl" <nospam(a)noway.com> wrote in message news:hpe7d4$s8m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> How many processes running in the background? >>>> >>>> Also run DPC checker >>>> http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml >>>> ... and report the findings. >>>> >>>> sk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:inwun.911$z%6.769(a)edtnps83... >>>>> So I took the plunge and bought a new system from Mwave. >>>>> >>>>> Basic Ark case and P/S >>>>> Gigabyte GA-P55-USB motherboard >>>>> Intel i5 750 chip >>>>> 2x2gig Kingston DDR3 1600 ram >>>>> (2) WD 750 gig caviar black drives >>>>> GForce 220 1 gig video card (Msi) >>>>> 22" Hannspree monitor >>>>> LG DVD RW drive >>>>> >>>>> I got everything up and running alright. I'm using winxp sp3 and I am using >>>>> a M-Audio audiophile 2496 card. I also have a Delta 1010 I plan on >>>>> installing as well. >>>>> >>>>> With all this new speed and power I am still getting pops in my audio using >>>>> reaper. So I viewed my IRQ table in control panel and found that the 2496 >>>>> card was sharing with all kinds of things. This MB has 3 pci slots and no >>>>> matter which one I use it only gives me choices of either IRQ 16, 17 or 18 >>>>> and all of these have multiple things on them. I have attached a pic showing >>>>> the delta card currently on IRQ16 (3rd Pci slot). (Actually, this post wouldn't allow me to attach a pic) >>>>> >>>>> Of the research I have done so far, it doesn't seem like I can even force an >>>>> IRQ in the BIOS because win xp will just over look it and load it where it >>>>> wants to using ACPI. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know a solution or workaround for this problem. I feel like I >>>>> just wasted a lot of money for nothin. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
From: Steve_Karl on 6 Apr 2010 17:04
The LAN should be no problem. I'd leave the sound off as it's somewhat notorious for causing problems. Have you considered a dual boot? Have one OS for audio oly and the other for hobby audio and internet etc. That's the only way I can do it here and good great performance on a bare bones install of XP. 17 processes and that could be trimmed to 15 if the main function of this box wasn't being a GigaStudio farm animal. S "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:QsLun.968$z%6.435(a)edtnps83... > Well, I went int the BOIS and shut off the audio and the Lan (I left all of the USB on for now) and then I ran msconfig and took > out everything I could from the startup tab. I am left with Avast (I tried to turn it off but it comes back), ipiont and itype (MS > wireless kb and mouse), the Delta panel, BCU and NvCpl (again, tried but they came back). That brought the system processes down > from 40 to 30 and now I can run at 64 samples and no pops. I will continue to trim but at least its working. I want to get the Lan > and sound back if I can. > I also ran the DPC Latency checker again. I am getting some wierd readings. If Reaper is running and I start it, I get readings > just under 1000us but if I stop and restart the song in Reaper, the checker drops down to 8 or 9us with peaks up to maybe 50us. I > know it still working because I inserted a synth while the song was running and noticed that the latency spiked to about 350us or > so. > > Peter > > > > Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:Xns9D5257845449EBrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)81.169.183.62... >> The killer robot "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> grabbed the controls >> of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> >>> I'm running reaper in 16 bit with asio 64 samples latency as well and >>> I didn't tweak reaper at all. I'm also using the same AP2496 driver as >>> you. I'm not loading this thing up at all but it still pops and >>> clicks. I had this same problem in previous systems until I could get >>> the card on it's own IRQ. The thing I notice about this new system is >>> that there are a cajillion things using up all the IRQ's and yet some >>> numbers are not even listed (like 2,4,5,7,10,11,12,14,15 & 20). I >>> tried to attach a picture of this but OE won't let me post an >>> attachement to this group and I can't seem to imbed it in this >>> message. I'm wondering what your IRQ table looks like? Is your AP2496 >>> sharing with anything? >> >> My AP2496 is on an IRQ that is shared. I'm not at my DAW right now, but >> I'll check it when I get home. If I were you, I'd try disabling *every* on >> board peripheral, like USB, sound, parallel and serial ports. Then boot >> up, at which point both the BIOS and Windows will re-shuffle the deck of >> who gets what IRQ. If that gets rid of the pops, then I'd one at a time, >> re-enable the on board stuff. >> >> -- >> Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email >> ________ __ >> / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ >> / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ >> / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / >> \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo >> Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits >> Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms > > |