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From: miso on 1 Jan 2010 19:59 On Jan 1, 9:49 am, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:22:46 -0800 (PST), "m...(a)sushi.com" > > > > <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote: > >On Dec 30, 6:03 pm, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:34:21 -0500, Phil Hobbs > > >> <pcdhSpamMeSensel...(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> >On 12/30/2009 8:21 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:03:24 -0600, krw<k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > > >> >>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:53:02 -0700, Jim Thompson > >> >>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote: > > >> >>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:37:33 -0500, Phil Hobbs > >> >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSensel...(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: > > >> >>>> [snip] > > >> >>>>> Actually the CIA turns out some really great chefs. The place I used to > >> >>>>> stay in Essex Junction VT was attached to the CIA, and the food was > >> >>>>> amazing. (Culinary Institute of America, of course.) > > >> >>>>> Cheers > > >> >>>>> Phil Hobbs > > >> >>>> I was stranded there the week before Christmas, some years ago. > >> >>>> Marvelous food and carolers from some local university ;-) > > >> >>> Couldn't be UVM. No Christians allowed. ;-) > > >> >> Don't remember who were the carolers, but they were quite good! > > >> >> I was at Essex Junction to review chip testing (at IBM) for the very > >> >> first Garmin chip design... I'm trying to remember when... 1991 ?? > > >> >> But, indeed, it WAS New England Culinary Institute. > > >> >> ...Jim Thompson > > >> >Nah, that's just the cover. They keep the black helicopters under the > >> >tablecloths. > > >> Thirty or so years ago, my wife was flying[*] back from her parents > >> into LaGuardia. She got to talking with the man in the adjacent seat > >> and found that he too was going to Poughkeepsie. She mentioned that I > >> worked for IBM and he replied that he worked for the CIA. Everyone > >> within earshot turned around and looked at them. > > >> [*] Faviorte bumper sticker; "I've been in a bad mood since the house > >> fell on my sister". > > >If you work for the CIA as an analyst, you don't need cover, so it is > >likely someone would say they work for the CIA rather than make up > >some BS. > > But what if you work for the CIA as a chef? > > When I worked in Poughkeepsie IBM, occasionally I'd have to do some > work in the manufacturing area. The two sites (P'ok and Kingston) > both had mainframe test area where hundreds of mainframes were set up > for final test, each with a placard over them with the customer's > name. Many had "US Department of Agriculture" - too many to count > cows. I was told that USDA was the cover for any classified > government agency. Later, in VT, a friend worked for INS. His pay > checks came from the USDA. The USDA is a cover for all sorts of stuff > too. > > >I was at a CIA reunion in Vegas not too long ago and the CIA set up > >their gift shop in the lobby where the event was held. I got a nice > >CIA polo-type shirt with their badge, but wondered just where the hell > >do THEY wear these shirts. > > The polo field? The CIA operates a spy museum in D.C. Next time > we're there I'll have to check it out. The Spy Museum is not run by the CIA, but it is worth the trip. You can see the famed rectal tool kit in person. The facility is pretty close to one of the metro stations. While in the general area, the NSA museum in Ft Meade is worth the trip. They have old recon aircraft outdoors, then all the old electronics gear indoors. Lots of antique crypto machines, plus some voice scrambler that use LPs as the modulation source. The Spy Museum had an Icom radio (R7100 I think, but it could have been a R8500) as their surveillance receiver. I think this is less than likely since it is well known the CIA use CEI or WJ radios. The NSA museum had a SP-600, which I know was used for such purposes. The NSA museum has that smell of old electronics, you know, the smell you wish was available as an aftershave to attract geeky women. ;-) The Spy Museum is very commercial. Two difference approaches to documenting history. The Spy Museum has a few hands on demos. The NSA only has a thumb print scanner, which in the day was impressive technology.
From: krw on 1 Jan 2010 20:50 On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:59:50 -0800 (PST), "miso(a)sushi.com" <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote: >On Jan 1, 9:49�am, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:22:46 -0800 (PST), "m...(a)sushi.com" >> >> >> >> <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote: >> >On Dec 30, 6:03�pm, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:34:21 -0500, Phil Hobbs >> >> >> <pcdhSpamMeSensel...(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >> >On 12/30/2009 8:21 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:03:24 -0600, krw<k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> �wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:53:02 -0700, Jim Thompson >> >> >>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> �wrote: >> >> >> >>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:37:33 -0500, Phil Hobbs >> >> >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSensel...(a)electrooptical.net> �wrote: >> >> >> >>>> [snip] >> >> >> >>>>> Actually the CIA turns out some really great chefs. �The place I used to >> >> >>>>> stay in Essex Junction VT was attached to the CIA, and the food was >> >> >>>>> amazing. �(Culinary Institute of America, of course.) >> >> >> >>>>> Cheers >> >> >> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >> >> >> >>>> I was stranded there the week before Christmas, some years ago. >> >> >>>> Marvelous food and carolers from some local university ;-) >> >> >> >>> Couldn't be UVM. �No Christians allowed. �;-) >> >> >> >> Don't remember who were the carolers, but they were quite good! >> >> >> >> I was at Essex Junction to review chip testing (at IBM) for the very >> >> >> first Garmin chip design... I'm trying to remember when... 1991 ?? >> >> >> >> But, indeed, it WAS New England Culinary Institute. >> >> >> >> � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �...Jim Thompson >> >> >> >Nah, that's just the cover. �They keep the black helicopters under the >> >> >tablecloths. >> >> >> Thirty or so years ago, my wife was flying[*] back from her parents >> >> into LaGuardia. �She got to talking with the man in the adjacent seat >> >> and found that he too was going to Poughkeepsie. �She mentioned that I >> >> worked for IBM and he replied that he worked for the CIA. �Everyone >> >> within earshot turned around and looked at them. >> >> >> [*] Faviorte bumper sticker; "I've been in a bad mood since the house >> >> fell on my sister". >> >> >If you work for the CIA as an analyst, you don't need cover, so it is >> >likely someone would say they work for the CIA rather than make up >> >some BS. >> >> But what if you work for the CIA as a chef? >> >> When I worked in Poughkeepsie IBM, occasionally I'd have to do some >> work in the manufacturing area. �The two sites (P'ok and Kingston) >> both had mainframe test area where hundreds of mainframes were set up >> for final test, each with a placard over them with the customer's >> name. �Many had "US Department of Agriculture" - too many to count >> cows. �I was told that USDA was the cover for any classified >> government agency. �Later, in VT, a friend worked for INS. �His pay >> checks came from the USDA. �The USDA is a cover for all sorts of stuff >> too. � >> >> >I was at a CIA reunion in Vegas not too long ago and the CIA set up >> >their gift shop in the lobby where the event was held. I got a nice >> >CIA polo-type shirt with their badge, but wondered just where the hell >> >do THEY wear these shirts. >> >> The polo field? �The CIA operates a spy museum in D.C. �Next time >> we're there I'll have to check it out. > >The Spy Museum is not run by the CIA, but it is worth the trip. You >can see the famed rectal tool kit in person. The facility is pretty >close to one of the metro stations. > >While in the general area, the NSA museum in Ft Meade is worth the >trip. They have old recon aircraft outdoors, then all the old >electronics gear indoors. Lots of antique crypto machines, plus some >voice scrambler that use LPs as the modulation source. That's the one I was thinking of. Thanks. >The Spy Museum had an Icom radio (R7100 I think, but it could have >been a R8500) as their surveillance receiver. I think this is less >than likely since it is well known the CIA use CEI or WJ radios. The >NSA museum had a SP-600, which I know was used for such purposes. The >NSA museum has that smell of old electronics, you know, the smell you >wish was available as an aftershave to attract geeky women. ;-) Au de Burning Bakelite? >The >Spy Museum is very commercial. Two difference approaches to >documenting history. The Spy Museum has a few hands on demos. The NSA >only has a thumb print scanner, which in the day was impressive >technology. Didn't know there were two. Again, thanks.
From: Phil Hobbs on 2 Jan 2010 17:37 On 1/1/2010 8:50 PM, krw wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:59:50 -0800 (PST), "miso(a)sushi.com" > <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote: > >> The Spy Museum had an Icom radio (R7100 I think, but it could have >> been a R8500) as their surveillance receiver. I think this is less >> than likely since it is well known the CIA use CEI or WJ radios. The >> NSA museum had a SP-600, which I know was used for such purposes. The >> NSA museum has that smell of old electronics, you know, the smell you >> wish was available as an aftershave to attract geeky women. ;-) > > Au de Burning Bakelite? Burning _phenolic_, silly. How did you ever get married? ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
From: krw on 2 Jan 2010 19:29 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:37:10 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >On 1/1/2010 8:50 PM, krw wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:59:50 -0800 (PST), "miso(a)sushi.com" >> <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote: >> >>> The Spy Museum had an Icom radio (R7100 I think, but it could have >>> been a R8500) as their surveillance receiver. I think this is less >>> than likely since it is well known the CIA use CEI or WJ radios. The >>> NSA museum had a SP-600, which I know was used for such purposes. The >>> NSA museum has that smell of old electronics, you know, the smell you >>> wish was available as an aftershave to attract geeky women. ;-) >> >> Au de Burning Bakelite? > >Burning _phenolic_, silly. How did you ever get married? ;) I said "I do."? ;-)
From: Michael A. Terrell on 3 Jan 2010 13:18
krw wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:37:10 -0500, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: > > >On 1/1/2010 8:50 PM, krw wrote: > >> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:59:50 -0800 (PST), "miso(a)sushi.com" > >> <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote: > >> > >>> The Spy Museum had an Icom radio (R7100 I think, but it could have > >>> been a R8500) as their surveillance receiver. I think this is less > >>> than likely since it is well known the CIA use CEI or WJ radios. The > >>> NSA museum had a SP-600, which I know was used for such purposes. The > >>> NSA museum has that smell of old electronics, you know, the smell you > >>> wish was available as an aftershave to attract geeky women. ;-) > >> > >> Au de Burning Bakelite? > > > >Burning _phenolic_, silly. How did you ever get married? ;) > > I said "I do."? ;-) And let out a sigh of relief as her daddy unloaded the white shotgun... :) -- Greed is the root of all eBay. |